The Middle East: only Wars & Conflict ! .. ??

[deaf andy]

They invented writing.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

 

i thought it'd be bigger than that...

[daneha]

How can a country invent writing? Besides, did Iraq even exist at time writing was discovered/created?

 

The land mass existed but was called Mesopotamia, its the cradle of civilization and was the first place people settled after migrating out of Africa, from there we spread to the rest of the world.

[Mecky]

The land mass existed but was called Mesopotamia, its the cradle of civilization and was the first place people settled after migrating out of Africa, from there we spread to the rest of the world.

 

Really? I seems to remember people emerged from mid/south of what is now called Africa.

[Cyclone]

Well Iraq invented writing. The British invented the novel. And the internet.

 

The US created the internet. If you're going to try to play national top trumps you should at least get your facts correct.

[Mecky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventions_in_the_medieval_Islamic_world

 

i thought it'd be bigger than that...

 

That says medievil. Most of the inventions existed long before that. Discovered lemon juice? come on, really. Lemons existed donkeys years before the medivil period

 

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Anyway back on topic. I suspect the miltary is already on the ground in Syria, identifying targets and such, many more will be looking over photos and satellite pictures

[Anna B]

Really? I seems to remember people emerged from mid/south of what is now called Africa.

 

They might have emerged from Africa, but Urr in Mesopotamia was the first settled civilisation /'city' in the ancient world.

 

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But never really progressed beyond getting slaves to build pyramids though.

 

And inventing maths, science, astronomy, a written language and a few other things...

[Happ Hazzard]

The US created the internet. If you're going to try to play national top trumps you should at least get your facts correct.

I meant the World Wide Web. Which is "the internet" to most people.

[Mecky]

They might have emerged from Africa, but Urr in Mesopotamia was the first settled civilisation /'city' in the ancient world

 

So the goalposts have been moved again, eh?

[Anna B]

So the goalposts have been moved again, eh?

 

Oh please

[catpus]

why is it okay to kill hundreds of thousands of people with conventional weapons but if you gas a few hundred its a reason for intervention:suspect:

 

you have to ask the question of the result of the intervention. Would more people die if the rebels were armed and received military aid from missiles and perhaps airstrikes, or would more people die if the rebels were defeated?

but look at the alternative.

If the West gets involved,it may take months of intense fighting to topple Assad. During that time, many more Syrians will be forced to leave the country for their own safety, and many more will die. Al Qaeda groups that are known to be operating in Syria will be armed by the West , and will probably carry out ethnic cleansing, aka murdering people en masse.

Once Assad is removed, the very same slaughter will take place as if Assad wins, only from different victors. And stability will be nowhere to be found, as rival groups start bombing each other for years to come.

Letting Assad win is the least worst option for the people of Syria as a whole. But the reality is that both sides are bad, and we shouldn't be backing either of them.

 

 

Spot on....Thanks to Tony Blair's greatest achievement after six years as special envoy for the Middle East, He has been on a mission to bring lasting peace to the war-torn region. .. (JOKE?). to bring together the United Nations, the European Union, the United States and Russia - after leaving Downing Street in 2007. It is all coming together nicely for him..... He is the Devil incarnate.

 

According to records kept by the Bahrain Centre for Human Rights, over the past two years at least half of the total deaths caused by the Bahraini regime security forces have resulted from tear gas suffocation. The very young, elderly and infirmed are most at risk.

There is little doubt that the excessive use of toxic chemicals is a deliberate policy of repression. The repression is aimed at “collectively punishing” the civilian, mainly Shia, population who have steadfastly supported the pro-democracy movement against the unelected Sunni royal rulers. Typically, the riot police do not limit their deployment of tear gas to disperse protesting youths on the streets. Regime forces routinely fire inordinate numbers of canisters into surrounding streets, with the effect of saturating whole villages and districts of the capital, Manama, with toxic fumes. The following day, entire skip-loads are filled up with the empty gas canisters swept off the streets by residents.

In 2011 the British foreign secretary William Hague announced that HIS government would be sending protective gas masks and equipment...not to Bahraini civilians, but to SYRIA. (Is he the PM now then? And how did he know they would be needed?) Moreover, the British equipment to protect against toxic chemicals is not being sent to Syrian civilians, but to the FOREIGN MERCENARIES fighting a covert war on behalf of Britain, the US and France and their Persian Gulf Arab allies to overthrow the government of Bashar al-Assad. CONSISTENT REPORTS SHOW THAT IT IS WESTERN BACKED MERCENARIES IN SYRIA WHO HAVE BEEN USING CHEMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST CIVILIANS TO LEVERAGE THEIR OBJECTIVE OF TERRORISING THE POPULATION INTO RELINQUISHING SUPPORT FOR THE DAMASCUS GOVERNMENT... Think about it for just one moment... What would Assad gain from gassing his OWN people? He would never be voted for again?

 

An official Russian report last week concluded that the Western-backed militants are using unguided rockets crudely fitted with chemical warheads, including the deadly nerve agent Sarin. These weapons are banned under international law. Therefore, their use is a WAR CRIME.. And the people who have supplied them are :

Perversely, the British government is intending to send gas masks to al-Qaeda-linked terrorist groups - whom the British now claim to be pro-democracy rebels - even though the evidence is growing that it is these groups who are guilty of wielding chemical weapons. If that responsibility is proven, then that makes the British government and its other Western allies indictable for complicity in war crimes in Syria. That would add to similar indictable crimes that the British government is already complicit in, in Bahrain.

 

Fittingly, there is a logical pattern here. In Syria, the British government is supporting militants using chemical weapons to sabotage democracy, while in Bahrain the British government is supporting a regime that is also using chemical weapons to sabotage democracy, or at least efforts to establish their version of democracy. The description of “tear gas” may sound legitimate, but in the case of pandemic use against civilians in Bahrain it is far from legitimate. Tear gas or CS gas is officially meant for sparing use to fend off rioting crowds. These gases are highly toxic when used at saturation levels and especially in enclosed places, such as homes. In practice, therefore, the way in which these toxic materials are used in Bahrain in civilian residences constitutes a chemical weapon of mass destruction. Such use is a violation of international laws banning the use of chemical weapons, which makes it a crime against humanity.

 

As in Syria, the British government stands accused of crimes against humanity from the use of chemical weapons in Bahrain. Official data provided by the London-based Campaign Against the Arms Trade shows that the British government approves hundreds of export licenses for the supply of weapons to the Bahraini regime. Britain continues to approve of this trade with Bahrain; even though it earlier said that it would suspend the supply of weapons when reports of repression emerged

during 2011. THEY DID NOT!

Among the hundreds of items of weaponry sold to Bahrain from Britain are the following: CS gas, riot-control irritants, smoke generators, smoke canisters, smoke ammunition, stun grenades, “toxins”, and smoke grenades.

 

This trade with Bahrain is in spite of the stated British policy that it “does not supply weapons to countries where such arms could be used for internal repression”. LIARS

 

‘‘ British parliamentary committee on arms control this week reported that Britain supplies weapons to 27 countries which its own foreign office has listed for concern over human rights. The top two recipients of British weapons in the list of 27 - comprising more than 90% of a $19 billion annual trade - are Israel and Saudi Arabia.’’

These two regimes are indictable for war crimes and crimes against humanity and yet they are both armed to the teeth by Britain.

 

In the case of Saudi Arabia, Britain supplies among other tools of repression: armoured cars, crowd-control ammunition, tear gas, smoke grenades and stun grenades. For more than two years, since March 2011, British-equipped Saudi forces have been present in Bahrain to shore up the Khalifa regime. Saudi military dressed as Bahraini riot police accompany Bahraini officers during their deadly raids on Shia villages where families are on a daily basis poisoned in their own homes. The probable fact is that the people are being killed by forces wielding toxic gas made in and sold by Britain.

Their deaths along with dozens of innocent Bahrainis in a very real way originates from toxic political decisions made in London.

 

The criminal use of chemical weapons of mass destruction by irregular militants in Syria and by regular security forces in Bahrain has a common denominator: both are supported by the British government to kill democratic freedom.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07...bahrain-syria/

 

I sent my own objection to Cameron Hague and Nick Clegg today and am waiting to see what comes of them...

 

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how can a country invent writing? Besides, did iraq even exist at time writing was discovered/created?

 

is this a joke?