hard2miss Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Watching the fires spread over in America I was wondering how little we can do about it once it gets as big and bad as it has, the planes dropping retardent are dwarfed by it. Then I thought, what if they were to explode one of those large bombs above the ground that they did over the caves in Afganistan to kill Binlarden ? I remember the news saying the US was exploding these bombes over the caving systems as they used up all the oxygen really quickly and would suffercate anyone thought to be safely holed up in the caves. So wouldn't something like this work the same over one of these fires in the same way and wouldn't such an explosion flatten much of the foliage and have the added benefit of taking away or at least take to the ground the fual source ? Anyone have any ideas why this would not work if the area had been evacuated and enough notice given ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 ......... Anyone have any ideas why this would not work if the area had been evacuated and enough notice given ? Because those bombs were designed to have that effect within a confined space exerting their forces into a cave system. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1854371.stm They would not have the same effect in the open air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hard2miss Posted August 28, 2013 Author Share Posted August 28, 2013 Oh right, thanks Still do you think flattening the trees that would be lost anyhow could help in giving a fire break ? Surely if the fire had to spread on the ground it would help slow the spread in order to be managed from the air. While ever the trees are up right they are able to draw more oxygen to fual it and leap over any man made fire breaks, roads, ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Watching the fires spread over in America I was wondering how little we can do about it once it gets as big and bad as it has, the planes dropping retardent are dwarfed by it. Then I thought, what if they were to explode one of those large bombs above the ground that they did over the caves in Afganistan to kill Binlarden ? I remember the news saying the US was exploding these bombes over the caving systems as they used up all the oxygen really quickly and would suffercate anyone thought to be safely holed up in the caves. So wouldn't something like this work the same over one of these fires in the same way and wouldn't such an explosion flatten much of the foliage and have the added benefit of taking away or at least take to the ground the fual source ? Anyone have any ideas why this would not work if the area had been evacuated and enough notice given ? I would imagine that if your idea had been feasible it would have been seriously considered already The worst fire in years is now raging near Yosemirte Park which at this time of year is full of visitors but as far as I know the park has not been ordered to be evacuated. Around 3,000 firefighters are battling the blaze The problem is that there have been three years of drought conditions and everything is tinder dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam on it Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 the planes dropping retardent They've been dropping the cast of Glee on the fire? good idea, I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikes10 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I remember seeing a TV programme presented by David Attenbrough saying that burning is a natural process for some types of tree. The tree resin is readily combustible and helps promote fire in exceptionally hot dry summers. Now consider what happens when humans intervene and prevent 'natural' forest fires. There will be a build up of readily combustible material and eventually humans can no longer prevent a forest fire, thus when a fire does occur its a sort of 'Superfire', the type you are seeing now across the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I remember seeing a TV programme presented by David Attenbrough saying that burning is a natural process for some types of tree. The tree resin is readily combustible and helps promote fire in exceptionally hot dry summers. Now consider what happens when humans intervene and prevent 'natural' forest fires. There will be a build up of readily combustible material and eventually humans can no longer prevent a forest fire, thus when a fire does occur its a sort of 'Superfire', the type you are seeing now across the USA. A great problem is that some of these fires occur close to residences, making natural burning out of the question. Lots of people like being in their homes shaded by trees. It keeps some of the heat down, but it'a very risky away fom a nearby hydrant. I wouldn't do it, I keep my home out of the forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam on it Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I keep my home out of the forest. Does it keep trying to go into the forest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaf andy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Does it keep trying to go into the forest? guess it's not house trained ... (tumbleweed) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz3 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 I keep my home out of the forest. You can take your home out of the forest, but can you take the forest out of your home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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