truman Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 As far as applications to Universities are concerned, it seems a bit easy to blame politicians. There was already a desire of the children of the middle classes to go to university. Perhaps if there were the jobs there in the first place, some students wouldn't have bothered with Uni. I guess there is a disparity between what some middle class people want for their children, and the fact that much of what is available are low pay and long hours in kitchens which they may percieve as for other people's children Could you define middle class please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 JO is talking about his own experiences so he obviously has seen it with his own eyes. I agree, but there are people who are unable to give any credibility to anyone they 'don't like'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 And your point is? People in 'middle class' occupations contribute plenty to this country's coffers, if it wasn't for them then our benefits system would be in a far worse mess than currently. The middle classes encompass a huge swathe of the population, and whether you like it or not, you have probably benefited from them being around. Unless of course you never went to school; never needed a doctor; never bought a house and used a solicitor. Those are just some examples of the type of middle class occupations that most of us have come into regular contact with. I agree, I was responding to Mister Ms middle class bashing post. What is middle class anyway, there is either working class or upper class who don't have to work, and the underclass who choose not to work. Middle class is just working class people with a bit of snobbishness thrown in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipspice Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I agree, but there are people who are unable to give any credibility to anyone they 'don't like'. never a truer word said. people can be so blinkered when they have already formed an opinion of someone. Jamie Oliver could sell all his properties and give all his cash to help the poor / homeless and they would still hate him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 It's known and documented fact that public sector workers do more unpaid hours overtime than those in the private sector. I have never worked for nothing, however every hour that I have worked I have produced. You will now wish to inform me of the productivity of the Public sector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I have never worked for nothing, however every hour that I have worked I have produced. You will now wish to inform me of the productivity of the Public sector. I work with the Public Sector, a team of 7 employees had 4 managers. All managing the same team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I agree, I was responding to Mister Ms middle class bashing post. What is middle class anyway, there is either working class or upper class who don't have to work, and the underclass who choose not to work. Middle class is just working class people with a bit of snobbishness thrown in. Hang on I wasn't even bashing the middle class! It seems a bit unfair to have a go at me where similar threads about people who eat cheese and chips, and lack British Grit attract far more vitriol ---------- Post added 29-08-2013 at 14:48 ---------- I have never worked for nothing, however every hour that I have worked I have produced. You will now wish to inform me of the productivity of the Public sector. Why would I want to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillpig Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I work with the Public Sector, a team of 7 employees had 4 managers. All managing the same team. Thank you, the tragedy is that it is expensive and the people cannot feel any sense of job satisfaction knowing as clearly you do that the system is hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 When i lived there they liked to strike a lot. Not quite as bad as the French though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEDROCK Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Looks like Nick Clegg has other opinions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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