dosxuk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'm willing to bet good money that if these CPZ schemes were free, paid for using the taxes of everybody else that everyone objecting here wouldn't be. I disagree - it seems to me that the majority of people with issues with the CPZ schemes don't live in them and are mostly annoyed that they stop them from just dumping their cars wherever they want. In their world, the schemes are hated by everyone and are just a cash cow for the council, while in the real world they are supported by many of the people who live in the zones, primarily because all the spaces near their homes aren't filled with people like the complainers in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Quote: Originally Posted by Resident I'm willing to bet good money that if these CPZ schemes were free, paid for using the taxes of everybody else that everyone objecting here wouldn't be. I disagree - it seems to me that the majority of people with issues with the CPZ schemes don't live in them and are mostly annoyed that they stop them from just dumping their cars wherever they want. In their world, the schemes are hated by everyone and are just a cash cow for the council, while in the real world they are supported by many of the people who live in the zones, primarily because all the spaces near their homes aren't filled with people like the complainers in this thread. yup, rememer 12% of residents voted for these zones Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallBuilder Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) yup, rememer 12% of residents voted for these zones Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android Hi for newcomers to this thread or for those like myself who haven't been following it that closely could you say where you get your figure of 12% from Edited September 2, 2013 by WallBuilder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 yup, rememer 12% of residents voted for these zones And how many abstained from the vote? If only 1% voted against the schemes then it's a good example of democracy at work. On a different matter, why do all your quotes come out messed up? Is it the Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android being awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'll finish that sentence for you to make it accurate: yup, remember 12% of residents voted for these zones, of which the majority voted in favour. The remaining 88% of residents polled didn't vote because they couldn't be bothered therefore were classed as abstainers. See I even coloured it differently so you could see what was added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'll finish that sentence for you to make it accurate: See I even coloured it differently so you could see what was added. You show your lack of knowledge there... It was not a poll, or a ballot, it was a CONsultation. The figures per street were never released, it was done at a time when a large proportion of residents were not there, the questions asked were ambiguous and distorted - the results could be taken either way - and a lack of response was not counted as a negative opinion as many people were led to believe it would be. Basically, it was a stitch up. Even now, the areas are being further stitched up by the subdiviion of these scheme areas. If you were asked "Would you like a scheme where your permit allows you to park on your street, and only your street, and there will be twice as many permits issued as there are places?", would you vote for it? Of course not. But by the subdivision of the schemes as is happening, without scheme wide consultation, this is in effect what is going on. DON'T VOTE FOR THESE SCHEMES - they are just about income generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Second and subsequent permits cost double the first permit price. . Does it cost DOUBLE to issue a second permit or is the council just ripping off motorists again , fleecing householders and milking the cash cow . ? I see absolutely no reason why second or third permits would cost any more to issue than the first ,unless that is you can give us a sound reason why extra permits cost DOUBLE to issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 It was not a poll, or a ballot, it was a CONsultation. The figures per street were never released, it was done at a time when a large proportion of residents were not there, the questions asked were ambiguous and distorted - the results could be taken either way - and a lack of response was not counted as a negative opinion as many people were led to believe it would be. Hang on, I thought you weren't CONsulted? Myself and plenty of other people I know live in a Sharrow CPZ and have never been asked or consulted about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litotes Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Hang on, I thought you weren't CONsulted? I never said that... you are quoting someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 DON'T VOTE FOR THESE SCHEMES - they are just about income generation. Correct............. its all about the council raising revenues at Motorists expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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