El Cid Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Can all the idiots stop going on about him not being elected. That's how the British system works, there was a chance to change it but to AV but the public voted against that. AV would have kept the status quo. AV is "optional preferential voting"; a long way from PR that many would see as a positive change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Can all the idiots stop going on about him not being elected. That's how the British system works, there was a chance to change it but to AV but the public voted against that. They'd do anything to annoy Clegg. AV would have kept the status quo. AV is "optional preferential voting"; a long way from PR that many would see as a positive change. But there is zero chance of PR getting accepted - it would mean the main loony groups all getting a seat in parliament, and virtually guaranteeing we always have coalition governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 But there is zero chance of PR getting accepted - it would mean the main loony groups all getting a seat in parliament, and virtually guaranteeing we always have coalition governments. Just like we have now; a strong Government instead of one that limps along and could fall at any time. The party with the most MPs would select which minor party to deal with. I respect any party that gets elected; whether that is UKIP, Green or Liberal Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 the way the British system usually works, is that they deliver Prime Ministers that are leaders of the parties, that the voters have given a mandate to govern. Coalitions, are a rarity. Cameron has not done anything, to address the fact that his party needs about 5% or 6% more points to get a majority than Labour does. Instead they've just carried out this totally stupid measure, to formalise elections for every five years. Which is taking a massive great big singular individual feature, out of the British parliamentary system. The idea that a Prime Minister, can cut and run to the voters. It was brilliant and unique and a singular feature of Britain. And yet they callously axed it. another coalition is very possible. But if anybody is going to get a majority, surely the smart money is on red over blue. Ironically the likely collapse of the Liberals next election is the thing that is worrying Labour the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I would like PR but the public don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Labour will march back in, Undo everything that there predecessors did, Do it wrong their way. Punish the Poor and Protect the rich once their term is up: Conservatives will march back in, Undo everything that there predecessors did, Do it wrong their way. Punish the Poor and Protect the rich Repeat, and Rinse the Public infinite.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Whether it's David or someone else, as long as it's Tories, I don't mind. Look what Tony (of WMD fame) did for us. Look at the financial mess Labour left. Look at the immigration problems. Who's responsible for that? Too true. I don't really think any of them are much good, just that the Tories are the best of a bad bunch and Labor would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 Ironically the likely collapse of the Liberals next election is the thing that is worrying Labour the most. People will vote tactically for the best party/person. Would the Liberal Democrats will have for policies is even more flexible than Labour. Either party will win or lose on their policies. Some areas are strongly for the Libs; its the big money spending by the 2 main parties that will play a large part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I'm not so sure about that. Tactical voting has kind of gone out of fashion. fact is, if the Liberal vote collapses or even declines the Tories will benefit from that more than Labour will. They will not only hang on to seats that way, which they may have otherwise lost, but they might even gain some. But still the Tories can lose, even if they make gains in some places. Because even if they gain a few seats from the Liberals, Labour might gain more - seats they have won from the Tories not the Liberals. Enough to get, a majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 People will vote tactically for the best party/person. Would the Liberal Democrats will have for policies is even more flexible than Labour. Either party will win or lose on their policies. Some areas are strongly for the Libs; its the big money spending by the 2 main parties that will play a large part. People don't vote tactically, they vote for who their family voted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.