daneha Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 But it's nothing compared to the £16.4bn dodged by private enterprise. Didn't some of you say dodging tax isn't against the law anyway? The point I was making is that if out MP,s and political parties don't act morally when it comes to tax and expenses, then we can hardly expect business to act morally when it comes to tax. And if they can't act morally why should anyone act morally, the first examples of good practice should come from our leaders and hopefully those good examples will be followed by the population. As it stands, anyone fiddling at the bottom is doing nothing worse than the people at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckerslike Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 So you have nothing to say then? Just so we know where you stand, would you prefer us to be going into the 2015 election with unemployment at 2 million and falling, with growth of 2.5% as predicted by BCC; or would you prefer it to be 3 million unemployed and rising with negative growth and a failing economy? Reply With Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Last I checked, Labour Party Properties Limited (LPPL) is a private (for-profit) enterprise. They're part of the (£16.4bn) problem. Nope. 'Some of us' have (consistently) said that tax avoidance is legal, and that tax evasion is not. 'Dodging' is a meaningless term in context...though quite useful for your purpose, undoubtedly. It's all the same to me whether it's evasion or dodge. doesn't to dodge mean to evade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Tax dodging is tax evasion. Tax avoidance is what everyone does. Or do you just hand over every penny you earn to the taxman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 It's all the same to me whether it's evasion or dodge.That's as may be. But it is not "all the same to" HMRC, who help make -and enforce- the rules. So...you're entitled to your opinion of course, and to voice it to your heart's content. Just don't be surprised when it's either ignored or rebutted as irrelevant. doesn't to dodge mean to evade?It also means to avoid. Mecky, surely "dodge" is not another one of your typos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 That's as may be. But it is not "all the same to" HMRC, who help make -and enforce- the rules. So...you're entitled to your opinion of course, and to voice it to your heart's content. Just don't be surprised when it's either ignored or rebutted as irrelevant. It also means to avoid. Mecky, surely "dodge" is not another one of your typos? So it means the same then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caparo Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 So it means the same then You avoid tax by taking out a pension, investing in an ISA. You evade it by deception. Not much to do with the thread though. Is that your plan? I'm looking forward to to the increasingly healthy economy. Record levels of employment, accelerating growth. What a contrast to 2007-2010. You don't seem too happy that Labour got us into a mess and the coalition have got us out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 So it means the same thenTo you, yes. To HMRC and the 'some of us' about whom you were on about, no. Are you done dodging yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daneha Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 You avoid tax by taking out a pension, investing in an ISA. Or by paying excessive fees to subsidiary companies and channeling millions of pounds through a complicated web of companies. All legal apparently but very iffy, Tony Blair and his £8million tax 'mystery'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caparo Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Or by paying excessive fees to subsidiary companies and channeling millions of pounds through a complicated web of companies. All legal apparently but very iffy, Tony Blair and his £8million tax 'mystery'. Now that's a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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