algy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Plus, I read recently that Blair's son is a rising star. Prescott's too. Nepotism is alive and well. So is Jack Straw's lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 He's a back stabber and he's demonstrated it three times now. First his brother over the leadership, then the unions who voted him in and got shafted in return and then Cameron over the Syria vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampent Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm afraid it's my stammer fetish... ---------- Post added 16-09-2013 at 01:37 ---------- Apart from being re-elected in the 50's, you mean? He did things . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1heckofaguy Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 He talks funny and gonads. Might as well bring back Mr Foot. Labour will never gain power under this fool. Nobody trusts this berk. Labour are ruined. Opines? Labour destroyed itself by doing away with clause 4. As for Milliband I don't dislike him, he's just not leader material; I don't see him as primeminister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampent Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 This is true. But it took a while for the effects to make themselves known. There are still plenty of tribal Labour voters from before, but more and more of them are figuring out the truth, and more and more of them are dying off. And at this point, there isn't anyone from the previous era left in the party who can become leader and steer them right. So they're in a bad way, counting on public sector workers (dwindling in number), immigrants (many of whom are really natural conservatives), academics and students and benefit claimants (most of whom don't vote). It doesn't add up to a winning number IMO. Labour badly needs to attract the votes of relatively low paid private sector workers that used to be their core voter base, but their current policies really don't appeal to this demographic. They are too tied up with towing the progressive line because that is the view of most of the people in the party itself. I can't believe this!! I actually agree with you!! ---------- Post added 16-09-2013 at 21:43 ---------- Labour destroyed itself by doing away with clause 4. As for Milliband I don't dislike him, he's just not leader material; I don't see him as primeminister. He is useless. The general populace know he is weirdo light weight. Labour are finished until a new order come in. It's all rather depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 He talks funny and gonads. Might as well bring back Mr Foot. Labour will never gain power under this fool. Nobody trusts this berk. Labour are ruined. Opines? The thing is....its not the Labour party is it, its just watered down Toryism...we need true Socialist Labour, with true socialist values, where the working man thinks about his fellow man, not just what he can get for himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampent Posted September 16, 2013 Author Share Posted September 16, 2013 The thing is....its not the Labour party is it, its just watered down Toryism...we need true Socialist Labour, with true socialist values, where the working man thinks about his fellow man, not just what he can get for himself Would be nice mate. Never going to happen now. Thatcher changed the whole psyche of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjodeano Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Would be nice mate. Never going to happen now. Thatcher changed the whole psyche of the country. perhaps....but i am wondering, that in this recession people will realise what true socialist values mean........yeah i can live in hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Tom Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The thing is....its not the Labour party is it, its just watered down Toryism...we need true Socialist Labour, with true socialist values, where the working man thinks about his fellow man, not just what he can get for himself I think you are right. That's exactly what the Tories want. Shades of Michael Foot all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 The thing is....its not the Labour party is it, its just watered down Toryism...we need true Socialist Labour, with true socialist values, where the working man thinks about his fellow man, not just what he can get for himself Gerra grip lad, there's more chance of, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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