alchresearch Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 And if I'm not mistaken they still get it even if they have an income from alternative employment. Not a bad deal by the looks of it. Yep, that's true. I have a retired fireman working for me. His firefighter pension pays all the bills and the income he gets from working with me is for "treats" as he calls them, which usually relates to Android tablets and laptops! I don't begrudge him any of it though, he's worked hard through his career and saved more lives than I ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybaby Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Link here to contribution rates etc. http://www.yourpension.org.uk/Files/Files/HCC%20Fire/FPS%20Scheme%20Guide.pdf As a member of the FPS, the amount that you will pay in contributions depends on your pensionable pay but it is currently between 11% and 13%. Below are the pay bands and the rates which apply from April 2013. Your Fire and Rescue Authority will pay a contribution equivalent to about 26.5% of your pensionable pay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Still practising the politics of envy AdamSmith? Ha ha quite the opposite ! The politics of real life and working practises that are unsustainable !! Unilke in your fairyland world where all are equal and the culture of rights reigns supreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Only 32% of the private sector workforce, including the self-employed, contribute to a personal pension. Until this amount is in the majority, most people when comparing will be comparing what the firefighters get and what they will get on a state pension, therefore my comparison is fair. A firefighter gets 4.5x that of a state pension and also has the right to retire 5 years earlier too. The fact that people don't make arrangements for a pension doesn't somehow make a pension from employment comparable with the state pension. The two are completely unrelated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxtor Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 so the firemen are striking today over their gold plated public sector pensions eh? another example of the unionized working sector creating an unnecessary disruption & possible danger to the general public although firemen i agree have a very difficult job at times, a lot of the time is spent doing general maintenance of hydrants & fire prevention etc and to be able to retire at just after 50 on a very good pension seems like a good option to me, especially as most firemen i know have been moonlighting for years in other jobs. Good on them! they have my full support. They are also still answering emergency calls, its just the non emergency ones that arent getting done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John795 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 In France people tend to support each other to ensure their standards are maintained whereas in the UK we tend to be more divisive and ultimately everyone loses out except the banks, politicians and multinational corporations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Only 32% of the private sector workforce, including the self-employed, contribute to a personal pension. Until this amount is in the majority, most people when comparing will be comparing what the firefighters get and what they will get on a state pension, therefore my comparison is fair. A firefighter gets 4.5x that of a state pension and also has the right to retire 5 years earlier too. and can die or seriously disabled at any time during his work, its a highly dangerous job fair play to em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 In France people tend to support each other to ensure their standards are maintained whereas in the UK we tend to be more divisive and ultimately everyone loses out except the banks, politicians and multinational corporations. If the unions had come out against mass immigration which lowered the wages and working conditions of millions of people in the private sector, they might be getting more sympathy now. Instead they came out in favour of it. I have no idea why as it completely lowers their bargaining power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Let everybody in this country retire at fifty they have done their bit and give the youngens a chance to do their bit. I agree you have worked best part of 35 years, instead of making people working up to 70 which they would if they could. Let people have the choice of retiring at 50-55 if they want; and get the bone idle youth off their arses, and off the dole and working. Not read all the posts but, what I will say would you be a fireman/woman I know it's a life choice, but they do it and put their lives on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 and can die or seriously disabled at any time during his work, its a highly dangerous job fair play to em The same can apply to many jobs or careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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