bullerboY Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Does anyone know just how many firemen are actually firemen and not highly paid office workers or administrators,does the fire service like other public services have more chiefs than indians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John795 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 If the unions had come out against mass immigration which lowered the wages and working conditions of millions of people in the private sector, they might be getting more sympathy now. Instead they came out in favour of it. I have no idea why as it completely lowers their bargaining power. I'm referring to joe public not especially the unions, specifically how they choose to vote. However, regarding your point the biggest culprits were labour as revealed by Andrew Neather. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html However if people understood the game they would not allow such divisive infighting and jealousy over pensions because they would understand how divide and rule works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's the left that divides and rules, they don't know how to work together through petty disagreements. The right is far more pragmatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSiSi Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Considering the public sector pensions are paid for by the working people, many of whom are on low pay, I'd say it's the public sector pensions that are too high, wouldn't you? So people employed in the public sector aren't actually working people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The same can apply to many jobs or careers and?............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avidcameron Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 so the firemen are striking today over their gold plated public sector pensions eh? another example of the unionized working sector creating an unnecessary disruption & possible danger to the general public although firemen i agree have a very difficult job at times, a lot of the time is spent doing general maintenance of hydrants & fire prevention etc and to be able to retire at just after 50 on a very good pension seems like a good option to me, especially as most firemen i know have been moonlighting for years in other jobs. The moonlighting you describe is a consequence of a poor salary.Do you think it is safe for firemen to work in their late 50s? They pay 13pc of their gross pay to fund their pension which is rather high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Carol Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The moonlighting you describe is a consequence of a poor salary.Do you think it is safe for firemen to work in their late 50s? They pay 13pc of their gross pay to fund their pension which is rather high. Welcome to the real world! a fireman I once talked to said his job was a piece of pi** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angos Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The moonlighting you describe is a consequence of a poor salary.Do you think it is safe for firemen to work in their late 50s? They pay 13pc of their gross pay to fund their pension which is rather high. Which isn't much when you consider they could spend longer in retirement than work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Carol Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 So people employed in the public sector aren't actually working people.Well..........some of them are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avidcameron Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Welcome to the real world! a fireman I once talked to said his job was a piece of pi** Well what can I say?You meet all sorts at speed-dating-was he trying to impress you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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