melthebell Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I just don't get how a gay couple who love each other and want to commit damage society because they get married. cos adamsmith is homophobic, so he just cant allow it to be seen as anywhere like "normal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister M Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 exactly that!! it does weaken every part of marriage & society ,its not , and never can be a marriage, whats next 2 dogs getting married?? marriage is the shell in which to make a family, children and a home!! call it what you like a civil partnership etc but not marriage, normal married couples do make for a stable society as on the whole they want to care for their children and work hard to do that. What a weird, queer thing to say. Some people have very strange ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 .......... its all down to A: religion B: in the eyes of the law C: tradition ......... The real origins of "marriage" were in a public event to say "we are now together", (really "she is mine") so "hands off" the rest of you! Regardless of how the ceremony is dressed up today, that element is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 The real origins of "marriage" were in a public event to say "we are now together", (really "she is mine") so "hands off" the rest of you! Regardless of how the ceremony is dressed up today, that element is still valid. thats another point i dont like about it, the thought that you "own" somebody, like a piece of meat, or property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmack Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 thats another point i dont like about it, the thought that you "own" somebody, like a piece of meat, or property I don't think that's true. Maybe it was a few years ago. But now now. It's a public commitment in front of your family friends and if your religious it's a opportunity to commitment to each other in front of god and to promise to god to be faithful to each other. If you're not religious it's an excuse for a party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 cos adamsmith is homophobic, so he just cant allow it to be seen as anywhere like "normal" wrong as usual Mel!! shock horror i even have some gay friends and some even work for me:roll: i just happen to think marriage is for men & women to make a family, it gives kids a stable upbringing and values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Because it's a contradiction. If you believe that marriage is a staple of society and it's decline it's a sad thing which we should try and reverse (as I do) it's surely logical to open marriage up to gay people. Love is love. And allowing gay people to get married in a state sanctioned registry office and any religious building which wants to. Just a no-brainer The Tories are claiming marriage makes a stable[not staple] society - which is total nonsense. Having said that, that doesn't mean I'm against marriage. I just don't see why married couples - gay or not - receive tax benefits just because they hold the "married" title(being married doesn't guarantee commitment, stability or a healthy relationship) - when committed non-married couples who are in stable and healthy long-term relationships are denied those tax privileges. If they are going to provide tax benefits, wouldn't it be more fair to provide tax benefits to those in long-term relationships - regardless their marriage status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoad Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I like the sound of this tax break for married couples. Any single ladies out there fancy getting married on the cheap? I think we can do it for about £100, then go our separate ways, no strings attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 wrong as usual Mel!! shock horror i even have some gay friends and some even work for me:roll: i just happen to think marriage is for men & women to make a family, it gives kids a stable upbringing and values. You even have some gay friends! You are nice to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 ... i just happen to think marriage is for men & women to make a family, it gives kids a stable upbringing and values. When I was a kid, all the adults on the street were married. That included burglar Tom, drug dealer Dick, and wife beating Harry who had numerous affairs(mostly with married women). The vicars wife was a very giving woman too (she spent a lot of time with the milkman and the gardener) - and the vicar was an alcoholic. Some of their kids turned out OK, some of them didn't. What was that about marriage and stability, upbringing and values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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