alchemist Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Why are these children in a Roman Catholic school ? Are you saying that only catholics can go to a catholic school? Are you advocating segregation where only specific pupils can go to specific schools? It might be that that school has a very good academic record and the parents wanted the best for their kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Personally it really annoys me when schools get all heavy about hair cuts, piercings etc. School uniform policy should extend to items of clothing worn, I don't see what right they should have to interfere or dictate a person hairstyle, whether they get a nose stud, nails painted etc. Schools go on about the importance of attendace so how can they then exclude children from education for such trivial reasons. How many FSE100 company directors have facial tattoos and nose piercings? In the real world your apprearance does make a difference... like it or not. Schools are there to prepare kids for the real world and are not the child soldiers of the politically correct left. Why should they have any right to dictate facial hair? We must assume this also extends to tecahers (why would pupils be barred from having facial hair but not teachers?) which means teachers with beards are effectively excluded from employment there. It's discriminatory at best. It is nonsense to think that the same rules should apply to teachers as to pupils! If one of the rules is 'obey teachers' then how will that work?!? It is only discrimination if the rules don't apply to all. If you make an acception for religious reasons then you discriminate against everyone else nd really o introduce discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Beards at 14, must be bum fluff. WTF. I want a picture of the beard but I would think the teachers are going to be the over zealous ones in this case. Most likely just to have a bit of fluff. Not a full on ZZ Top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 How many FSE100 company directors have facial tattoos and nose piercings? In the real world your apprearance does make a difference... like it or not. Schools are there to prepare kids for the real world and are not the child soldiers of the politically correct left. School kids can't get facial tattoos. We're talking about kids, not FTSE100 company directors. It is nonsense to think that the same rules should apply to teachers as to pupils! If one of the rules is 'obey teachers' then how will that work?!? It is only discrimination if the rules don't apply to all. If you make an acception for religious reasons then you discriminate against everyone else nd really o introduce discrimination. Why shouldn't it? If young male puils can't sport any facial hair, how can they justify staff having beards? I don't think there is any religious descrimination going on. Possibly gender discrimination, only the males are going to have hair growth after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 School kids can't get facial tattoos. We're talking about kids, not FTSE100 company directors. We are talking about preparing kids for the real world where rules have to be followed and they will have to cope with certain conservative standards within society. If they choose to stick two fingers up to society when they leave school then that is their business... but it will limit their life opportunities. Why shouldn't it? If young male puils can't sport any facial hair, how can they justify staff having beards? I don't think there is any religious descrimination going on. Possibly gender discrimination, only the males are going to have hair growth after all. There is no discrimination at all if the rules applies to all. Just because you don't agree with a rule doesn't mean you are being discriminated against. When you grow up you'll understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supertramp Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 We are talking about preparing kids for the real world where rules have to be followed and they will have to cope with certain conservative standards within society. If they choose to stick two fingers up to society when they leave school then that is their business... but it will limit their life opportunities. There is no discrimination at all if the rules applies to all. Just because you don't agree with a rule doesn't mean you are being discriminated against. When you grow up you'll understand. I don't disagree with you entirely but it's a bit of bum fluff in these kid's case and you don't really want to start shaving at the first sign of it othereise you're going to have to shave all the time. Secondly a lot of tech startups and even the big players are proving you don't need to be conservative in appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I don't disagree with you entirely but it's a bit of bum fluff in these kid's case and you don't really want to start shaving at the first sign of it othereise you're going to have to shave all the time. Secondly a lot of tech startups and even the big players are proving you don't need to be conservative in appearance. My boy has a friend who plays for an under 14's football team. They regularly play against lads with beards... not bum bluff. There is a lot of scepticism that they are the age they claim to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 We are talking about preparing kids for the real world where rules have to be followed and they will have to cope with certain conservative standards within society. If they choose to stick two fingers up to society when they leave school then that is their business... but it will limit their life opportunities. Appreciate that, but that doesn't excuse having ridiculous rules in the first place. What if they had a rule saying everybody must walk on their hands, it should be obeyed just to teach them a lesson in following rules? There is no discrimination at all if the rules applies to all. Just because you don't agree with a rule doesn't mean you are being discriminated against. When you grow up you'll understand. In a situation where rules on facial hair don't apply to teachers but do to pupils, then clearly that's not a rule that would apply to all. In a school you're meant to all be part of the same school community so how an they have one rule like that for pupils but not for teachers? If they don't it's giving a bad example. If they do they're discriminiating against teachers with beards. Either way it's a stupid rule to regulate facial hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Appreciate that, but that doesn't excuse having ridiculous rules in the first place. What if they had a rule saying everybody must walk on their hands, it should be obeyed just to teach them a lesson in following rules? You can fight against stupid rules just not under the banner of discrimination if the rules apply to all. In a situation where rules on facial hair don't apply to teachers but do to pupils, then clearly that's not a rule that would apply to all. In a school you're meant to all be part of the same school community so how an they have one rule like that for pupils but not for teachers? If they don't it's giving a bad example. If they do they're discriminiating against teachers with beards. Either way it's a stupid rule to regulate facial hair. Schools apply a hierarchical system where pupils are below teachers in the pecking order. If this wasn't the case then there'd be anarchy. Such is life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 at school I was always told to take mi jeans out from inside mi Dockers kids huh? I didn't have facial hair back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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