I1L2T3 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wind forward two years. Will Tommy Robinson be back with a newly resurgent EDL telling us all "look I tried to be reasonable look where it got us". Is it an excuse for future extremism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The immigration issue is now mainstream thanks to the meteoric rise of UKIP. There is now a real chance that UKIP could form part of a coalition government after the next election and could actually implement some of their policies. Immigration has always been a mainstream issue. Successive governments have passed immigration acts. It's just that the mainstream deals with other issues too - health, education, defence, transport, energy, environment, etc, etc - issues that UKIP doesn't deal with other than by opposing HS2 and supporting fracking. UKIP will need to win a couple of dozen seats at least to be part of a coalition and hope they're bigger than the Lib-Dems. Even if they get one or two MPs they'll only be as relevant as the SNP or Plaid Cymru. The Tories won't touch them at the moment because they'll lose votes to Labour if they associate themselves with them. During a general election campaign UKIP's lack of structure, discipline and organisation will become obvious and cost them votes by making them look like the amateurish bunch of whingers they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Wind forward two years. Will Tommy Robinson be back with a newly resurgent EDL telling us all "look I tried to be reasonable look where it got us". Is it an excuse for future extremism? Is it a man renouncing violence and hoping that dialogue with the Muslim community will help stop the spread of Islamic extremism? As my clumsy post earlier in attempted to show, all sorts of terrorists/freedom fighters/thugs have gone to, and had more success with peaceful methods. I suppose it boils down to whether you trust him or not and whether you think there is any rise in Islamic extremism in this country that needs addressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeye Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Its about time the guy got some credit. He head butted a Nazi at one demo and was arrested. He's now left the organisation he formed because he doesn't like being associated with them. Yet, he's still called a "Fascist". That's ridiculous, I don't even think he's right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is it a man renouncing violence and hoping that dialogue with the Muslim community will help stop the spread of Islamic extremism? As my clumsy post earlier in attempted to show, all sorts of terrorists/freedom fighters/thugs have gone to, and had more success with peaceful methods. I suppose it boils down to whether you trust him or not and whether you think there is any rise in Islamic extremism in this country that needs addressing. of course theres a rise / problem islamic extremism, just look at how many arrests are made here and abroad in the past year, 2 years that feature people either in this country or from this country, we also have born one of the most wanted terrorists in the world currently, the white widow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 of course theres a rise / problem islamic extremism, just look at how many arrests are made here and abroad in the past year, 2 years that feature people either in this country or from this country, we also have born one of the most wanted terrorists in the world currently, the white widow So tommy, however misguided and however hamfisted, had a point then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Is it a man renouncing violence and hoping that dialogue with the Muslim community will help stop the spread of Islamic extremism? As my clumsy post earlier in attempted to show, all sorts of terrorists/freedom fighters/thugs have gone to, and had more success with peaceful methods. I suppose it boils down to whether you trust him or not and whether you think there is any rise in Islamic extremism in this country that needs addressing. I watched on News night last night and I believe that he's sincere. It wasn't a slanging match. Robinson said his piece and give him his due he quite often does alright in interviews. My point was more about how patient he can be because things won't change overnight. But....I think he's a clever lad and he knows that with an improving economy and a pull-out from Afghanistan the flashpoints that led to the start of the EDL could be fewer. It just depends what happens in terms of terror attacks etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 So tommy, however misguided and however hamfisted, had a point then? who said hes never had a point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Drinking lager and liking lady boys are traits of right-wing inadequates."] ---------- Post added 09-10-2013 at 18:06 ---------- What parts of the BNP agenda have been put into practice? Withdrawal from the EU? An end to overseas aid? Wider gun-ownership? An end to immigration? Invading Poland? Seems like you know;)hey if you want to get into ladyboys thats up to you:hihi: Back on topic you make generalisations and then go on another tangent,stop trying to potray right thinking people with slurs. As for Tommy,I saw through him from day one,I feel sorry for those who were duped by him,they deserve better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sick again Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 who said hes never had a point? Well that is the inference from all the vitriol towards him on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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