boyfriday Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I won't rise to your silly merry-go-round mind games. I am merely stating my observations of this thread which should help the flow of unbiased discussion of the OP. So as I said let's hear your opinion, assuming your brief stint on my stationary merry go round hasn't left you dazed and confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 there you go, again... bringing the facts and common sense into the equation! Selectivity acceptable racism. Got to love this forum. Not that I think it was racist. But if you think it is, it should be unacceptable from anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 The opinion that races shouldn't mix and inter-marry and have children might be distasteful, but it's not racist. If it isn't racist it's bloody stupid (and none of anyone's business). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Nick Griffin and the like get derided for these views but Muhamad Ali doesn't. Go figure. http://youtu.be/fi6fvwxB2Bg If the Ali interview had been conducted the other way round with Parkinson making the same comments then what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 If the Ali interview had been conducted the other way round with Parkinson making the same comments then what! I doubt anyone would be revisiting it 40 years later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Why is anything he said racist? Did he say anything derogatory about any race? Or make claims of one race being superior to another? The opinion that races shouldn't mix and inter-marry and have children might be distasteful, but it's not racist. not to you and your ilk because you want the same....just the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Attack the post not the poster and if this descends any further into the usual bickering then it will be closed and suspensions issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Wow! I have to say that with all the hype about Mohammed Ali, I thought he was a decent man, if a bit stupid for boxing his brains to pulp! It's clear from that video that he was incredibly racist. Bleuch! What he said was racist, but should he be judged against a contemporary backdrop or the historical one he made the statement in? Churchill's revered as the finest Prime Minister this country ever had, but he had some very choice opinions on race and colonialism. Should he be despised because of it? Personally I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 You have to look at Ali as a man of his time, He came into his own during that time when Southern America was in a fury over civil rights. He showed his right to be respected with his fists and incredible speed. He beat Liston, Frazier, and everybody he came up against. He almost didn't beat Cooper, and was man enough to praise Cooper, as the toughest he ever faced. He changed his name from Cassius Clay, and refused to fight in Vietnam in defiance of the Government. It was indeed racist, but he never did become hated by the white people. He had a great sense of humour, and got a lot of sympathy when he contracted Parkinson's from the brain injuries he got from fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hots on Posted October 12, 2013 Author Share Posted October 12, 2013 Why is anything he said racist? Did he say anything derogatory about any race? Or make claims of one race being superior to another? The opinion that races shouldn't mix and inter-marry and have children might be distasteful, but it's not racist. I don't have a problem with anything Ali said in that clip I put up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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