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Absolute nonsense!

 

Correct Jews occupied the land and then Christians and then Muslims. It was a natural progression as all three religions have the same roots of which Islam was the last.

Nonsense, whilst each religion is based on the previous religion, its nonsense to say that they were a natural progression, Jews didn't cease to exist when Christianity started, which caused conflict, Jews and Christians didn't cease to exist when Islam started, and there are no historical records which show that Mohammad and his army were once Christians or Jews, Islam was created by Mohammad to counter the other religion, religion and the believe in God is good for motivating armies. If you can convince someone that there is a better life waiting for them after death, they are more likley to risk their life for your cause.

 

 

 

At some point in history every part of the world belonged to another group. You can't come in from Europe 2000 years later kick people out of their own houses of their own land into refugee camps and massacre and occupy them based on an extremist belief that God promised the land to you.

 

That didn't happen.

 

 

 

The vast majority of Israelis came to what is now Israel after the second world war and what followed was the expulsion of the native peoples from their own land which you know as well as I do.

If thats the case then Israel is full of some very old people, and clearly the vast majority of Israelis were born in Israel.

 

 

If Muslims were to kick all non Muslim indigenous English people out of half of England despite being a minority and claim they are the rightful people of the land under God I'm sure violent conflict would follow.

 

Muslims buy land and houses here, just like Jews bought land in Israel.

 

They could use the argument that because Britain created Israel which saw the expulsion of the Arabs from their homes they can now kick the English out of London. By your logic this would be justified would it not? If not why not? Considering you think kicking people out of their houses and massacring them is ok because the Jews were their first 2000 years ago.

 

Britain didn't create Israel, there are references to Israel in the Bibble.

 

 

 

 

 

Nonsense they had to pay a tax called the Jizya which was less than the Zakah tax Muslims have to pay.

The non Muslims of these conquered land lived under the laws of Islam and had no choice but to submit to these laws or suffer the consequences.

 

I'm not denying the Ottoman Empire conquered lands.

It would be hard to deny.

 

but so did the European Empires so does the American Empire. The Americans dropped nuclear bombs on Japan after the war had ended to test them out.

Which aren't based on the religion of peace, clearly when you look back at the history of Islam it was not not based on peace, it was based on violence and conquest.

 

 

Lets get things in perspective here Muslims are not invading non Muslim lands at the moment but the west continues to do so with its imperialist policies.

No they aren't, but they are helping Muslims rid themselves of murderous dictators.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't agree with everything the Ottomans did, they did some good things and some bad things.

No amount of good can change the fact that Islams wasn't based on peace, it was based on violent conquest and submission.

 

 

 

 

If you are trying to justify kicking people out their houses massacring them and occupying their land because it belonged to someone else 2000 years earlier surely you can't be arguing that Iraq shouldn't have invaded Kuwait?

I'm not trying to justify anything, but if want to use the past as an excuse for Muslims terrorism, I can use the past as an excuse for Western intervention.

 

 

Since Kuwait was a part of Iraq carved of by British imperialism. Saddam never saw the Kurds as his own people he was a Sunni Arab. The gassing took place in 1988 when America was arming and supporting Saddam to fight the Iranians, not in 2003.

Yes many Muslims people don't see other members of their country as part of that country, its not much of a justification for terrorizing them though.

 

Yes because when the Imperialist west bombs its way into a Muslim country they use a divide and conquer policy. They promise one group power in that country which then causes that group and those that support them to be viewed as traitors and therefore violence erupts among different factions which is rather good for the occupation. Divide and conquer policy has been used by western imperialism throughout history.

 

Nonsense, we clearly don't need to divide the people of Islam, they did that themselves over a thousand years ago, and from that point on they have fought each other.

 

 

 

I don't ignore it I look at the causes and the cause is quite clearly Western Imperialism.

No it isn't, Islam as been at war since its inception.

 

Which is why the west needs to change its policies towards the Muslim world if we want peace in the world.

Is that the policies that help Muslims.

 

What are you talking about? The Taliban said they will stop fighting when NATO gets out of their land and the drone bombings stop.

Of cause they won't stop fighting, they will just go back to terrorising their own people and attacking Western interests around the world.

 

 

Hakimullah Masood was ready for peace talks with the puppet government of Pakistan and America carried out a drone stroke on him just as peace talks were about to commence. If there was peace America wouldn't be able to continue its imperialist expansion all ove rthe world which is why it doesn't want peace. It's not even about religion its about having a strong military presence in that part of the world on the door step of China and Russia so America can keep its hold on the natural resources.

More nonsense, you are beginning to sound Westophobic.

 

Peace will be achieved when genuine leaders are given a chance in the Muslim world who will act in the interests of their people and not imperialist America. Leaders such as former cricketer Imran Khan and not a fat stooge who got in on the back of election fraud supported by America. America has done everything in its power across the Muslim world to stop genuine leaders from ever getting into power but change is on the way. Change will bring peace.

There can never be peace in the Muslims world, there can only be submission, didn't Egypt just elect someone they wanted, look how that worked out.