melthebell Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Whilst Plain Talker is busy would anyone else care to answer my question? its everybodys duty, not just you demanding that muslims bend over backwards, which funnily enough is what this thread started out as before it was hijacked by the usual suspects subverting it to the usual all out attack on muslims generally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeye Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Whilst Plain Talker is busy would anyone else care to answer my question? Of course it is... if that's what they really feel... ---------- Post added 25-10-2013 at 13:46 ---------- Whilst Plain Talker is busy would anyone else care to answer my question? Mmmm I asked her the other day if there was a street protest by Muslims to oppose Islamists would she attend? She hasn't answered that either... ---------- Post added 25-10-2013 at 13:47 ---------- its everybodys duty, not just you demanding that muslims bend over backwards, which funnily enough is what this thread started out as before it was hijacked by the usual suspects subverting it to the usual all out attack on muslims generally Mel... only a few nutty NFers hate ordinary Muslims. We hate Islamists, they're the enemy within... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 So, to be clear, you do not think it is the responsibility of the Muslim community (ordinary, decent, peaceful Muslims) to tackle Islamic extremism?Whilst Plain Talker is busy would anyone else care to answer my question? Personally I don't believe it's their responsibility anymore than anyone else's, but if they want to that's fine. It's setting people up to failure (and self righteous indignation when they do fail) if you demand they act on something which they're not responsible for. It reminds me of the apologies some groups have demanded from governments because of the historic misdeeds of the people they represent. I'm sure you don't agree that the British government should apologise for colonialism or its part in the slave trade for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Mel... only a few nutty NFers hate ordinary Muslims. We hate Islamists, they're the enemy within... wish i could believe that, but............i cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Mmmm I asked her the other day if there was a street protest by Muslims to oppose Islamists would she attend? She hasn't answered that either... Why should she answer? Why should she attend? Mel... only a few nutty NFers hate ordinary Muslims. We hate Islamists, they're the enemy within...But you seem intent on associating 'ordinary Muslims' with the actions of the extremists because you don't see them waving anti Islamist placards on every street corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Personally I don't believe it's their responsibility anymore than anyone else's, but if they want to that's fine. It's setting people up to failure (and self righteous indignation when they do fail) if you demand they act on something which they're not responsible for. It reminds me of the apologies some groups have demanded from governments because of the historic misdeeds of the people they represent. I'm sure you don't agree that the British government should apologise for colonialism or its part in the slave trade for example? dont you find it a little odd that after 9 pages theyre now arguing about what the op was about?? british muslims speaking out about extremists? its like theyre so intent on garnering as much bile against muslims and taking the thread so off topic, they forget what the original thread was about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 its everybodys duty, not just you demanding that muslims bend over backwards, which funnily enough is what this thread started out as before it was hijacked by the usual suspects subverting it to the usual all out attack on muslims generally Wor e said ---------- Post added 25-10-2013 at 14:19 ---------- dont you find it a little odd that after 9 pages theyre now arguing about what the op was about?? british muslims speaking out about extremists? its like theyre so intent on garnering as much bile against muslims and taking the thread so off topic, they forget what the original thread was about Hahaha..isn't that an irony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamo Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 its everybodys duty, not just you demanding that muslims bend over backwards, which funnily enough is what this thread started out as before it was hijacked by the usual suspects subverting it to the usual all out attack on muslims generally How do you reason that? How can we non-Muslims influence how Muslims practice their religion? How do we monitor what is preached in Muslim places of worship? How do we monitor the views and behaviour of Muslims who do not live amongst us? How are we going to correct, or report, the extremist view of our children when none of them are Muslims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peer Gynt Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Did you call for a "Not in my name" as day when the catholic priests were outed as kiddie fiddlers?" Don't recall catholic priests flying airliners into building, bombing busses and the London, setting bombs off everyday targeting men, women and children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 How do you reason that? How can we non-Muslims influence how Muslims practice their religion? How do we monitor what is preached in Muslim places of worship? How do we monitor the views and behaviour of Muslims who do not live amongst us? How are we going to correct, or report, the extremist view of our children when none of them are Muslims? is there not ways? cant you think? dont you think talking to a community and being "friends" with a community is gonna garner more results than purely driving them away, underground, further towards secrecy and extremism? did ofsted not recently close a school down? how did they manage that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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