Would Ed Miliband win Labour the next general election

[poppet2]

I can't wait to see Nigel Farage in the pre election Manifesto TV debates. All the parties will gang up on him, which may be their biggest mistake as this may get the public voting for him.

 

You've got to admit, whether you like him or loath him he's an extremely eloquent and charismatic public speaker and character, which is what's missing in politics. Boris being the exception.

[southcoast]

Can't see labour getting in with Ed in charge he's a bit faceless to be honest. But the government seem to do whatever they want because hardly anyone votes anymore.

 

 

Never underestimate the stupidity of the Sheeple,ooops sorry people,they have short memories and are tribal in how they vote,just look at Sheffield and see the mind set of the sheeple.

[SpikeMac]

I can't wait to see Nigel Farage in the pre election Manifesto TV debates. All the parties will gang up on him, which may be their biggest mistake as this may get the public voting for him.

 

You've got to admit, whether you like him or loath him he's an extremely eloquent and charismatic public speaker and character, which is what's missing in politics. Boris being the exception.

 

He doesn't have two policies to rub together though. He's got no chance in the media spotlight.

 

Ask Nick Griffin how proper scrutiny worked out for him.

[poppet2]

He doesn't have two policies to rub together though. He's got no chance in the media spotlight.

 

Ask Nick Griffin how proper scrutiny worked out for him.

 

Yes, but I wonder if the right wing media would be more supportive of UKIP if they discover that Labour are polls ahead, thereby giving UKIP an easier time?

[SpikeMac]

Yes, but I wonder if the right wing media would be more supportive of UKIP if they discover that Labour are polls ahead, thereby giving UKIP an easier time?

 

Not a chance. Grant Schapps has made certain that the BBC will be leaning left from now on, with his rather odd outburst today.

 

Most people don't buy a paper, they watch TV. Most people watch BBC news. not ITV.

 

Dear old Grant has shot his own fox, and Farage's too.

[Happ Hazzard]

The BBC has always leant left, or at least for the past 40 years or more. It's just a question of how far to the left they lean, and how brave they are to push some of their more controversial opinions. Quite a lot under the Labour government, considerably less so under the current coalition.

[Jmack]

The BBC has always leant left, or at least for the past 40 years or more. It's just a question of how far to the left they lean, and how brave they are to push some of their more controversial opinions. Quite a lot under the Labour government, considerably less so under the current coalition.

 

Oh yeah because Chris Pattern, Nick Robinson and Andrew Neil are all staunch labour supporters. Oh wait.......

[Mecky]

The BBC has always leant left, or at least for the past 40 years or more. It's just a question of how far to the left they lean, and how brave they are to push some of their more controversial opinions. Quite a lot under the Labour government, considerably less so under the current coalition.

 

So why does the BBC invite criticism of the left?

[avidcameron]

I can't wait to see Nigel Farage in the pre election Manifesto TV debates. All the parties will gang up on him, which may be their biggest mistake as this may get the public voting for him.

 

You've got to admit, whether you like him or loath him he's an extremely eloquent and charismatic public speaker and character, which is what's missing in politics. Boris being the exception.

 

This emphasis of stye over content typifies the operations of fascists.They are unfettered by the citing of specific policy details and prefer to simply oppose all competing ideas in a populist manner.I would not describe him as charismatic,more contrived and disingenuous.

[L00b]

This emphasis of stye over content typifies the operations of fascists.They are unfettered by the citing of specific policy details and prefer to simply oppose all competing ideas in a populist manner.I would not describe him as charismatic,more contrived and disingenuous.

It does not matter, because it works increasingly better as the electorate gets more disenchanted by the main parties and hard-up.

 

The Front National currently owns French politics and voting intentions, they're predicted to wipe the floor at the forthcoming municipal and European elections, with close to 25% of the entire voting corpus - far ahead of the 2 main (centrish-) 'right' and 'left' parties.

 

On paper, they currently 'have' nearly 2 in 5 votes from the working class, and the proportion of previous socialist (i.e. Labour) voters turning to them has increased from 3%, 2 years ago or so, to 11%. A repeat writ larger of that Greek voting issue some weeks ago.

 

Positively scary stats...and, unsurprisingly, little in the way of reporting about this seismic shift.

 

I very much doubt Ed Milliband could win Labour the next general election. They'd need a leader with the popular/populist factor of Farrage or Johnson, and they'd need it right now. Likewise I very much doubt Cameron could give the Conservatives a majority at the next general election. If the UK electorate by-and-large follows the same "dynamics" as elsewhere in Europe (and my £0.02 says it will), UKIP will be the kingmakers.