Cyclone Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Future stuff you have to pay for, and ignoring future income. That's exactly how scary looking figures for the UK are generated as well. Look at the total pension liability that exists and equate it to annual income (ignoring that it gets paid out over 40 years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 People used to take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect the state to do everything for them. Somewhere along the line we have lost that in the west. We will regain it. We have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 People used to take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect the state to do everything for them. Somewhere along the line we have lost that in the west. We will regain it. We have to. I'm sure people would love to work and support their families. Unemployment is a curse. As we automate and mechanise it's going to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 People used to take responsibility for themselves and their families and not expect the state to do everything for them. When? Somewhere along the line we have lost that in the west. We will regain it. We have to. Today's lot of pensioners have taken out more than they paid in and continue to take out. Perhaps we should start by cutting their benefits? The government has run up debt on their watch, perhaps we should let them default, and the youth would be free to start again instead of inheriting a debt they did not run up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 When? Today's lot of pensioners have taken out more than they paid in and continue to take out. Perhaps we should start by cutting their benefits? The government has run up debt on their watch, perhaps we should let them default, and the youth would be free to start again instead of inheriting a debt they did not run up? Pensions are not a benefit. They are a contributions based scheme. It suits the government's agenda to get people thinking of pensioners as yet another group of 'scroungers' Why pick on pensioners, why make them into another group of scapegoats. Put the blame where it should really lie - corrupt banks and innept politicians. But of course it's much easier to blame the old lady next door.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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