The poor like being underpaid it seems

[EUCLID 11]

It knocks on through the economy anyway. Paying low wages leaves employees claiming various benefits. So the net effect is that miserly employers are bailed out by the tax payer.

 

Maybe those at the top of companies should take less, pay more and be happy that they are helping us to climb out of our national economic mess.

 

...And maybe pigs will fly.

 

Yet again, the honest, hardworking folk are having their pants pulled down.

 

Miserly employers ARE bailed out by the taxpayer. Tax credits etc. enable people to work for lower wages, thus the employers profits are being 'propped up' by the public purse. Helping the lower paid ??, or boosting profits by artificial means ??

[Peer Gynt]

Do you mean imprisoned?

 

Go on try for four again in your words next post.

[Anna B]

The solution always seems to come back to the same thing - everybody should pay their fair share of tax. I'm talking especially of the big businesses and corporations. If just one of those companies paid its tax properly our financial problems would be almost solved.

 

Everything else is just tinkering round the edges.

 

We cannot afford for them to continue getting away with it.

[Vague_Boy]

Those benefit scroungers should all be inprisoned, its the only language they understand!!!!!!!

 

Are you feeling alright old chap?

[Harleyman]

Are you feeling alright old chap?

 

A bit like you. Suffering from over post exhaustion and becoming delusional

[Cyclone]

You should not take the comments at face value,as he is exercising irony albeit clumsily.He was saying that many SF people slate benefits claimants(fact) and therefore those whose wages need supplementation9from benefits) should therefore be criticised also.

 

Despite putting "fact" in your post, I doubt that you can find many posters that actually believe what Erebus is claiming is a common view.

His problem is that anyone who won't agree with him, is assumed to hold such an extreme view, he doesn't recognise any shades of grey.

 

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The solution always seems to come back to the same thing - everybody should pay their fair share of tax. I'm talking especially of the big businesses and corporations. If just one of those companies paid its tax properly our financial problems would be almost solved.

 

This is just wilful nonsense, firstly, they are paying their LEGAL share of tax, which is fair by definition IMO, secondly, if they decided for some reason to pay more, even huge businesses wouldn't put a dent in the government deficit, just how much tax do you imagine could be collected without destroying these companies overnight.

 

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Obviously part time is a bit different, but there are plenty of people in the country who can't make ends meet, despite working full time.

 

Those companies should be scrutinised carefully, in my opinion.

 

I don't think that the state should pay for child care either. Work should pay enough for that too.

 

Is it the fault of a company what the market rate for labour is, or how high the cost of housing has risen in any given area? Should they pay more out of the goodness of their heart (rather neglecting their responsibilities to shareholders, many of whom might be pension fund holders).

[Peer Gynt]

Miserly employers ARE bailed out by the taxpayer. Tax credits etc. enable people to work for lower wages, thus the employers profits are being 'propped up' by the public purse. Helping the lower paid ??, or boosting profits by artificial means ??

 

No no you mustn't say that, this country is the land of milk and honey (according to some on here).

Food banks are a figment of the imagination, 8 pensioners an hour don't die through the cold in the winter months, 80,000 children who're living in appalling conditions aren't really, bankers shouldn't be under investigation (regarding bankers, according to some on here if you want the best you have to pay the best) It's all down to scare stories and bad press according to those in denial.

it wasn't the fat cats who took us on the road to ruin it's the low paid, soup kitchen wallahs, children in poverty and pensioners who're to blame.

 

Yes those with the Nelson Syndrome ("I see no ships") are surely correct.

[EUCLID 11]

No no you mustn't say that, this country is the land of milk and honey (according to some on here).

Food banks are a figment of the imagination, 8 pensioners an hour don't die through the cold in the winter months, 80,000 children who're living in appalling conditions aren't really, bankers shouldn't be under investigation (regarding bankers, according to some on here if you want the best you have to pay the best) It's all down to scare stories and bad press according to those in denial.

it wasn't the fat cats who took us on the road to ruin it's the low paid, soup kitchen wallahs, children in poverty and pensioners who're to blame.

 

Yes those with the Nelson Syndrome ("I see no ships") are surely correct.

 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[erebus]

Its a downward spiral and no one realises it, or so it seems, and only 5 million people working and being subsidised by benefits! Let up hope the figure doubles and then let the blind scream over and over again that the country is getting out ots recession, which financially it never can.

 

We owe over 900% of GDP, and our Government with the economy being run by a toff with a 2nd class degree in History, with little idea of economics, outside of the lines he is schooled in for appearance sake, about to hike the borrowing up in the next 5 years higher than Brown and Co did in eleven years.

 

Digging a deeper financial hole to bury the country in, is no way to prosperity, and what happens when interest rates start to rise, and the interest cannot be paid?

[tinfoilhat]

Its a downward spiral and no one realises it, or so it seems, and only 5 million people working and being subsidised by benefits! Let up hope the figure doubles and then let the blind scream over and over again that the country is getting out ots recession, which financially it never can.

 

We owe over 900% of GDP, and our Government with the economy being run by a toff with a 2nd class degree in History, with little idea of economics, outside of the lines he is schooled in for appearance sake, about to hike the borrowing up in the next 5 years higher than Brown and Co did in eleven years.

 

Digging a deeper financial hole to bury the country in, is no way to prosperity, and what happens when interest rates start to rise, and the interest cannot be paid?

 

Do you have any answers to this impending doom?