Recent Immigrants make "net contribution" to finances

[boyfriday]

Jesus Christ. It's the first time I've read this thread, what a treat.

 

If you give a chimp a typewriter eventually he'll write the complete works of Shakespeare. In the meantime I think he's produced this thread.

 

You've been reading PG's tips

[angos]

Of course it is.

 

I'm sure that you do believe that the crowds have been brainwashed into wanting to see the fastest 100 meters of all time, you probably do think that the gullible fools would have just the same sense of excitement and sense of jeopardy watching their local amateur athletics club. I'm happy to leave you with that belief.

 

Anyway as I said to you earlier, in the real world many people take plenty of pleasure watching world class sports people compete.

 

Heres some world class sportsman and women with jobs, and there are many more.

 

Canadian sled racer Jon Montgomery is an Olympic hopeful by day. But despite being ranked number two in the entire world for his sport, he still has to make a living like the rest of us. So he works part-time as a Sales Consultant/Automobile Auctioneer

 

Triathlon Gwen Jorgensen works as an accountant at Ernst & Young.

 

Hong Kong's Chi Yip Cheung is a full-time fireman when he's not competing in the judo matches.

 

Norwegian marathon runner Urige Buta is also a janitor.

 

South African archer Karen Anne Hultzer is a landscaper by profession.

 

Great Britain's Natasha Perdue is a trash collector by day and a weight lifter at the Olympics.

 

American sailor Debbie Capozzi works at her family's Italian ice shop called Tina's Italian Ices in Patchogue, N.Y.

 

Diver Troy Dumais is a life advisor at the University of Texas.

 

American fencer Race Imboden is a DJ and was an intern for a record label called Fool's Gold.

 

Shooter Emil Milev is a physical education teacher at Booker T. Washington Elementary School in Tampa, FL.

[JFKvsNixon]

Heres some world class sportsman and women with jobs, and there are many more.

 

Canadian sled racer Jon Montgomery is an Olympic hopeful by day. But despite being ranked number two in the entire world for his sport, he still has to make a living like the rest of us. So he works part-time as a Sales Consultant/Automobile Auctioneer

 

Triathlon Gwen Jorgensen works as an accountant at Ernst & Young.

 

Hong Kong's Chi Yip Cheung is a full-time fireman when he's not competing in the judo matches.

 

Norwegian marathon runner Urige Buta is also a janitor.

 

South African archer Karen Anne Hultzer is a landscaper by profession.

 

Great Britain's Natasha Perdue is a trash collector by day and a weight lifter at the Olympics.

 

American sailor Debbie Capozzi works at her family's Italian ice shop called Tina's Italian Ices in Patchogue, N.Y.

 

Diver Troy Dumais is a life advisor at the University of Texas.

 

American fencer Race Imboden is a DJ and was an intern for a record label called Fool's Gold.

 

Shooter Emil Milev is a physical education teacher at Booker T. Washington Elementary School in Tampa, FL.

 

Where would you be without Google? The trouble is thanks to the internet it's possible to find any information to back up a point of view, no matter how bizarre that point of view is.

 

Anyway, do you think that the people in question chose to work or do they work out of necessity? Also it seems that you believe that all sports are equal, and that all circumstances are the same, something that is just not true; for example how could a grand tour cyclist hold down a job?

[tinfoilhat]

Heres some world class sportsman and women with jobs, and there are many more.

 

Canadian sled racer Jon Montgomery is an Olympic hopeful by day. But despite being ranked number two in the entire world for his sport, he still has to make a living like the rest of us. So he works part-time as a Sales Consultant/Automobile Auctioneer

 

Triathlon Gwen Jorgensen works as an accountant at Ernst & Young.

 

Hong Kong's Chi Yip Cheung is a full-time fireman when he's not competing in the judo matches.

 

Norwegian marathon runner Urige Buta is also a janitor.

 

South African archer Karen Anne Hultzer is a landscaper by profession.

 

Great Britain's Natasha Perdue is a trash collector by day and a weight lifter at the Olympics.

 

American sailor Debbie Capozzi works at her family's Italian ice shop called Tina's Italian Ices in Patchogue, N.Y.

 

Diver Troy Dumais is a life advisor at the University of Texas.

 

American fencer Race Imboden is a DJ and was an intern for a record label called Fool's Gold.

 

Shooter Emil Milev is a physical education teacher at Booker T. Washington Elementary School in Tampa, FL.

 

Alistair cook is a farmer (actually true I think!)

 

Shane warne is a gambler

 

David beckham is an underwear model

 

Lionel messi is an accountant albeit not a good one (allegedly)

 

Wayne roony helps out the elderly.

 

There's probably more out there if you think about it.

[Zamo]

Right wing rags like the Daily Express,Daily Mail,Daily Telegraph and Sun are desperately trying to get it to work again..............and the gullible are falling for it hook line and sinker...........when you add in all the far right groups in the UK and across Europe,you can see that the Xenophobia jibe does work...and it will work even more in the next few years.

 

People see the truth about immigration through their own eyes without the need for 'right wing rags' to tell them what's what. We see the vast majority of immigrants living in the poor areas, doing low/average paid jobs and we therefore know their contribution can't be positive despite the spin.

 

The fact is that our immigration policy is not selective enough and as a result we have received a disproportionate amount of immigrants from the low end of the earning spectrum. We see the worst instead of the best that people from other cultures have to offer and, to add insult to injury, we are paying for the previlege. And people have had enough now thanks.

 

If the mainstream parties don't want to listen then people will give their vote to people who do. Where that will go, I don't know. But it won't be anywhere you will like. It is time to stop denying, cut your loses and give ground.

[chalga]

People see the truth about immigration through their own eyes without the need for 'right wing rags' to tell them what's what. We see the vast majority of immigrants living in the poor areas, doing low/average paid jobs and we therefore know their contribution can't be positive despite the spin.

 

The fact is that our immigration policy is not selective enough and as a result we have received a disproportionate amount of immigrants from the low end of the earning spectrum. We see the worst instead of the best that people from other cultures have to offer and, to add insult to injury, we are paying for the previlege. And people have had enough now thanks.

 

If the mainstream parties don't want to listen then people will give their vote to people who do. Where that will go, I don't know. But it won't be anywhere you will like. It is time to stop denying, cut your loses and give ground.

 

 

The far right politicians,media and activists have tried to peddle the myths about immigration any and every which way they can to throw people off the scent of their own agendas and failings,the negative propaganda,stereotyping,stigmatising,hearsay,rumour, lies,........all reminiscent of 1930.ies Germany.........it aint working,the non gullible people who can see and think for themselves have seen right through this garbage for what it is,politicians, aided and abetted by media sycophants,out to retain or grab power by picking on the ones least likely to be able to fight back.

Unfortunately,there is one big stumbling block for them,the EU,and the free movement of people and labour,and the vested interests that various parties in the UK have in being in or out of the EU............even if there was a referendum and the UK voted out of the EU,there would still be immigration,big business and even little business will demand it,as will institutions like the NHS...............get used to it,the world you are used to has changed and will continue to change in ways you don't like...........the world is not 'going to stop for you to get off 'it...........you either embrace it,or live a life of extreme bitterness.........your choice.

[Michael_W]

..because certain institutions and politicians told them so

 

---------- Post added 05-11-2013 at 14:13 ----------

 

 

 

Wrong again BF, people see it for themselves, out there in the world we live in. The institutions and the politicians don't have the balls to say what much of the general populace think, or should I say are out of touch with much of what the general populace think.

Edited November 5, 2013 by Michael_W

[Lackluster]

Jesus Christ. It's the first time I've read this thread, what a treat.

 

If you give a chimp a typewriter eventually he'll write the complete works of Shakespeare. In the meantime I think he's produced this thread.

 

:hihi:

[Michael_W]

That's what comes with the negative propaganda of the ones with the agendas on the EU and immigration.............if you tell lies often enough,they become the truth...............that is what the far right are trying to spin,to make lies into the truth.

 

The positive propaganda has been with us for years, it has been responsible for far more lies and spin than the 'far right' could possibly dream of.

[Lackluster]

The far right politicians,media and activists have tried to peddle the myths about immigration any and every which way they can to throw people off the scent of their own agendas and failings,the negative propaganda,stereotyping,stigmatising,hearsay,rumour, lies,........all reminiscent of 1930.ies Germany.........it aint working,the non gullible people who can see and think for themselves have seen right through this garbage for what it is,politicians, aided and abetted by media sycophants,out to retain or grab power by picking on the ones least likely to be able to fight back.

Unfortunately,there is one big stumbling block for them,the EU,and the free movement of people and labour,and the vested interests that various parties in the UK have in being in or out of the EU............even if there was a referendum and the UK voted out of the EU,there would still be immigration,big business and even little business will demand it,as will institutions like the NHS...............get used to it,the world you are used to has changed and will continue to change in ways you don't like...........the world is not 'going to stop for you to get off 'it...........you either embrace it,or live a life of extreme bitterness.........your choice.

 

Head? Sand? Coffee? Smell?