Asylum seeker forces council to pay for flying lessons !

[Just Sarah]

You really are witless AdamSmith.

 

Whilst on the face of it providing flying lessons for anybody seems like madness, what do you think a qualified pilot with an aviation degree will contribute in tax revenues to the exchequer?

 

Incidentally the funding comes by way of loan, not grant and if their application to remain is successful they'll be transferred to the normal student loan system. There's obviously more to this story than meets the eye.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487444/Taxpayers-10-000-teach-failed-asylum-seeker-fly.html

 

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Ah-hem, you'll probably discover non white British people are competing in the same pool, so dont you go getting a rash with that persecution complex.

Ahem, ive reported your post as you seem incapable of making your point without insulting others.

Have a nice day.

[AdamSmith]

You really are witless AdamSmith.

 

Whilst on the face of it providing flying lessons for anybody seems like madness, what do you think a qualified pilot with an aviation degree will contribute in tax revenues to the exchequer?

 

Incidentally the funding comes by way of loan, not grant and if their application to remain is successful they'll be transferred to the normal student loan system. There's obviously more to this story than meets the eye.

 

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2487444/Taxpayers-10-000-teach-failed-asylum-seeker-fly.html

 

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Ah-hem, you'll probably discover non white British people are competing in the same pool, so dont you go getting a rash with that persecution complex.

 

Thanks for that BF not quite what I expected from you but I will get over it:P

If you really think once trained he is likely to stay here if he even passes then I am sorry you are deluded . As for

Paying back this loan....... Really you think so

[boyfriday]

Your socio liberal party line as for links someone has Already posted one! Wether he's a failed asylum seeker or not why on earth should a council ie taxpayer fund this nonsense this is pc gone mad and the government needs to step in to stop it!

You continue to split hairs and support this madness you and people

Like you are part of the problem !

 

Here's a link to the citation, the reasoning behind the application and what these two were applying for...can't see any reference to flying lessons.

 

Citation: R (on the application of (1) Yonas Admasu Kebede (2) Abiy Admasu Kebede) v Newcastle City Council (2013) [2013] EWHC 355 (Admin)

 

Shazia Akhtar acted for two brothers, Ethiopian nationals, who were abandoned in the UK as children and who were consequently looked after by the defendant local authority, Newcastle City Council (“NCC”). Both had discretionary leave to remain in the UK and both applied for, and gained places at university, due to commence in September 2012.

 

The Education (Student Fees, Awards and Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2011/87, meant that those with discretionary leave to remain were no longer entitled to "home student" status. The practical effect of this change meant that the brothers could not access student loans, without which they could not pay their tuition fees and attend university.

 

Shazia argued that s23C (4) (b) and s24B (2) (b) of the Children Act meant that NCC had a

duty to assist the applicants with the payment of their tuition fees which, on a simple statutory construction, were "expenses connected with education".

 

NCC denied that "expenses connected with education" included tuition fees and therefore they were not statutorily obliged to provide such assistance. NCC further argued that it was a matter for its discretion and that the issue of resources was a relevant factor. NCC relied upon the House of Lords decision in R v Gloucestershire CC ex P Barry [1997] AC 584 to support this contention.

 

The court rejected this argument and held that the argument of limited resources should not be applied where there was a statutory duty (as opposed to a power) to assist, applying the principle of R v East Sussex CC ex p Tandy [1998] AC 714.

 

The court accepted Shazia’s argument that s23C (4) (b) and the related provision s24B (2) does in fact cover tuition fees and the local authority now has to reconsider its decision in light of the court’s findings.

 

http://www.hardwicke.co.uk/insights/case-reports/r-on-the-application-of-1-yonas-admasu-kebede-2-abiy-admasu-kebede-v-newcastle-city-council-2013

[AdamSmith]

Ahem, ive reported your post as you seem incapable of making your point without insulting others.

Have a nice day.

 

Thanks Sarah but if you are reporting on my behalf please don't I am a big boy now.

[Just Sarah]

Thanks Sarah but if you are reporting on my behalf please don't I am a big boy now.

 

Fair enough. Sorry if i overstepped the mark i just get frustrated with some posters and the way they talk to others.

You can consider me told

[Cyclone]

Do you think its right hes getting flying lessons when white British people are denied even basic training in new fields to enhance their job prospects?

Also is the money its costing going to be recouped in future taxes he will pay to our treasury?

 

No, I don't.

[Just Sarah]

No, I don't.

 

Thanks for your answer

[Cyclone]

Your socio liberal party line as for links someone has Already posted one!

They hadn't had they. You started a thread without bothering to provide or link to any details.

Wether he's a failed asylum seeker or not why on earth should a council ie taxpayer fund this nonsense this is pc gone mad and the government needs to step in to stop it!

You continue to split hairs and support this madness you and people

Like you are part of the problem !

 

I haven't supported anything, you're too busy frothing at the mouth to actually read and understand what people write.

[AdamSmith]

Here's a link to the citation, the reasoning behind the application and what these two were applying for...can't see any reference to flying lessons.

 

 

http://www.hardwicke.co.uk/insights/case-reports/r-on-the-application-of-1-yonas-admasu-kebede-2-abiy-admasu-kebede-v-newcastle-city-council-2013

 

His chosen education/tuition course was aviation! Which entailed flying lessons to gain a PPL !! Keep up !! BF

[boyfriday]

Thanks for that BF not quite what I expected from you but I will get over it:P

I'm crestfallen

 

If you really think once trained he is likely to stay here if he even passes then I am sorry you are deluded . As for

Paying back this loan....... Really you think so

 

Well that eventuality could apply to any British born student..and in fairness it doesn't sound like you or the other dissenters want him here anyway!

 

Let's look at it rationally-we have two effectively orphaned children, who've been taken into care, yet succeeded academically and accepted on challenging academic courses, where the local authority will be responsible to provide loans for their maintenance (just as they would British students in the same position), don't you think it makes a change from the usual diatribe we hear about immigrants?