retep Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 retep's suddenly quoting a lefty in the guardian. What irony. ---------- Post added 02-12-2013 at 07:20 ---------- Are you disagreeing with the lefty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 And don't bother pretending that excluding ourselves from international trade agreements is going to benefit this country. Nothing at all wrong with international trade agreements, provided that other countries don't try to take-over the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Nothing at all wrong with international trade agreements, provided that other countries don't try to take-over the UK. With the UK in a weaker negotiating position that is effectively what would be happening. Look at the way the US has imposed it's views on the countries adopting the TPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 So you believe that other countries and their businesses would not want UK customers? How odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 So you believe that other countries and their businesses would not want UK customers? How odd. Where did I say that? In large groups, or as a single large entity if they are big enough, they would however be able to dictate the terms of the trade. As the US has done with the other countries in the TPP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyhoops Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 It would be interesting to see how many people in the Forum would vote for U.K.I.P . They have my vote #1 and mine aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Where did I say that? No, you didn't; hence my enquiry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No, you didn't; hence my enquiry. Bit of a non-sequitur though. Why did you specifically ask that question rather than any others you could have asked? The answer is that you want to deflect attention from the fact that the UK's withdrawal from the EU would have a catastrophic effect on our trade and that's something you're prepared to tolerate as long as it fulfils your right-wing fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No, you didn't; hence my enquiry. It looks more like a statement with a question mark at the end rather than a question. Had you not followed it with "How odd." I might have given you the benefit of the doubt but as it is it's something I didn't say followed by a disparaging comment. Looks a bit scarecrowish to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebatty Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Isn't one of your normal statements that UKIP is representing the views of the man on the street, as opposed to the other parties who only do what big business and the rich elite tell them to do? Isn't the ordinary man in the street worth £680m ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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