JR hartley Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 It would be interesting to see how many people in the Forum would vote for U.K.I.P . They have my vote #1 mine too:love: will be great to see some leadership, soon the closet UKIPPERS will show:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francypants Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 It would be interesting to see how many people in the Forum would vote for U.K.I.P . They have my vote #1 Mine too.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPEN BORDERS Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yorkshire multi-millionaire businessman Paul Sykes is backing UKIP, promising to do whatever it takes to get UKIP into top spot at next years European elections. Mr Sykes made £280m from the sale of Meadowhall, and in 2010 was worth £650m, ranked Britain's 26th richest person. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10455937/Paul-Sykes-I-want-to-set-Britain-free-from-the-EU.html One in the eye for those that constantly deride UKIP supporters as unintelligent and the like. I had a newsletter from UKIP today....party membership passed 32,000 for the first time Hope they go from strength to strength ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Yorkshire multi-millionaire businessman Paul Sykes is backing UKIP, promising to do whatever it takes to get UKIP into top spot at next years European elections. UKIP beat Labour at the 2009 European elections but that result had zero impact on the 2010 general election when Labour trounced UKIP despite an awful overall Labour performance. What will topping the European polls actually achieve for UKIP? They need MPs to change anything. In 2009 they got 12 MEPs and now have 8. 2 defected to the Tories and 2 became independent. Sykes has gone from being to Tory to UKIP to Tory and now back to UKIP. His links with the Tories will just underline UKIP's right-wing politics. ---------- Post added 19-11-2013 at 12:28 ---------- He's appeared on QT plenty of times..... Of the last 21 UKIP appearances on QT, Farage has done 15. The other 6 have been split among 4 or 5 others. That doesn't suggest a party with a wide range of ability but just a number of similar-minded people with just the one obsession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 UKIP beat Labour at the 2009 European elections but that result had zero impact on the 2010 general election when Labour trounced UKIP despite an awful overall Labour performance. What will topping the European polls actually achieve for UKIP? They need MPs to change anything. In 2009 they got 12 MEPs and now have 8. 2defected to the Tories and 2 became independent. Sykes has gone from being to Tory to UKIP to Tory and now back to UKIP. His links with the Tories will just underline UKIP's right-wing politics. ---------- Post added 19-11-2013 at 12:28 ---------- Of the last 21 UKIP appearances on QT, Farage has done 15. The other 6 have been split among 4 or 5 others. That doesn't suggest a party with a wide range of ability but just a number of similar-minded people with just the one obsession. A strong eurosceptic vote next year will send a message to our own Parliament that people are not happy with the EU setup. I agree it may not translate to General Election success when people have the whole domestic agenda to consider, but the Euro elections will be largely a judgement on our EU membership if UKIP do well. I watched the BBC interview with Sykes, sounds like a decent enough bloke, it's thanks to people like him who campaigned against joining a single currency that we didn't end up shackled with the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 A strong eurosceptic vote next year will send a message to our own Parliament that people are not happy with the EU setup. I agree it may not translate to General Election success when people have the whole domestic agenda to consider, but the Euro elections will be largely a judgement on our EU membership if UKIP do well. But it won't change a thing because MPs are the people who change things in relation to Europe. As you say, when people have the whole agenda to consider they don't vote UKIP which is obviously a big problem for UKIP and one stopping them from being anything other than a protest vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 And the only ones who when talking arnt obviously lying. Have you ever thought what might happen when they're put in a position where they're compelled to lie? That's a phenomena that afflicts all politicians who try the one size fits all approach to governing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 But it won't change a thing because MPs are the people who change things in relation to Europe. As you say, when people have the whole agenda to consider they don't vote UKIP which is obviously a big problem for UKIP and one stopping them from being anything other than a protest vote. Au contraire, UKIPs popularity is already changing things, which is why the Tories are saying they will hold a referendum (they're lying though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 ...which is why the Tories are saying they will hold a referendum. But only if Rupert Murdoch agrees to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Looks like Mr. Sykes is not on his own with funding, Conservative donors are flocking to Ukip http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10458732/Conservative-donors-are-flocking-to-Ukip.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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