angos Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A the universe always exsisted? That's plain illogical. Looking at it logically, the universe could either exists or not exist, there are no more options. There is no logical reason to assume that nothing was more likely than something. It was always going to be one or the other, the fact that it does exist, makes it very likely that it always existed, as opposed to nothing at all existed and then for some unknown reason everything just popped into existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryedo40 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Well, in my view there must of been a time of complete nothing and then out of the nothing the universe was created, that's why I believe in a first domino or first mover whatever you want to call it. A the universe always exsisted? That's plain illogical. So where did the first domino or first mover come from? Has that always existed? IMO, nothing can't really exist. If nothing did exist, it would be something. Maybe space or the universe in some shape or form is the default something that has to exist; and its properties give rise to everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think if comes down to whether you believe Humans are just highly evolved animals, or is their something extra that makes them special? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think if comes down to whether you believe Humans are just highly evolved animals, or is their something extra that makes them special? It actually comes down to the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmack Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I wonder how many people who attack faith and insist that they only believe things that have solid scientific evidence behind them, at the same time believe that their spouse loves them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angos Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I wonder how many people who attack faith and insist that they only believe things that have solid scientific evidence behind them, at the same time believe that their spouse loves them. Which is clearly testable, unlike the existence of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmack Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Which is clearly testable, unlike the existence of God. How is it testable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 How is it testable? Love is an emotion. Unless you're also saying we can't prove someone is upset... Gods are, at best, hypothetical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 How is it testable? They could say so. Faith really isn't a virtue, it's a barrier to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmack Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 They could say so. Faith really isn't a virtue, it's a barrier to reason. Them saying so is no proof, many people lie that they love someone just so they can marry someone then divorce them and get a good payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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