Zamo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 And where does this rant about multiculturism come from? I thought you were of the view that corruption wasn't 'unique to any particular culture'? It isn't unique but it is significantly worse. If you tackle the lack of integration by the Pakistani community then there are potential wins on multiple levels... reduced electoral corruption being one of them. It is my opinion that the whole concept of a multi-cultural society is flawed and it has left people from the Pakistani community (in particular) isolated and distrusted. The natural response to that is that they, particularly the young, develop a chip on their shoulder (have a look at yours to see what I mean ) that actual results in the divide ever widening. I suggest a way to reverse it by encouraging integration so people of different races and faiths can at least be united by culture. But that is apparently a rant. Are you saying there is nothing to fix? Do you not see the divide widening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 It isn't unique but it is significantly worse. If you tackle the lack of integration by the Pakistani community then there are potential wins on multiple levels... reduced electoral corruption being one of them. I've done business with Pakistanis for over 30 years, I've found them no less or more corrupt than any other group, but since they're far fewer in number the instances of corruption are far less than in the 'British' population. It is my opinion that the whole concept of a multi-cultural society is flawed and it has left people from the Pakistani community (in particular) isolated and distrusted. The natural response to that is that they, particularly the young, develop a chip on their shoulder (have a look at yours to see what I mean ) that actual results in the divide ever widening. So your contributions are more about deriding multiculturism rather than addressing corruption which you'd previously acknowledged wasn't unique to any particular culture. I suggest a way to reverse it by encouraging integration so people of different races and faiths can at least be united by culture. But that is apparently a rant. Are you saying there is nothing to fix? Do you not see the divide widening? There's plenty to fix, but why do so many people see the 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' strategy as the only means of addressing the problems? Little story for you Zamo...last Thursday I got a minicab to the station. The driver was a young Asian male with the full face beard and shaven head. Oh, my kneejerk prejudices went into full swing.."here's one of them al queda" I thought to myself, so I was immediately predisposed against him based solely on how he looked. He got out of the cab and helped me with my bags onto the backseat. He was very 'British' in what he spoke about and had a neutral accent. He told me of his young family and being up all night with his baby (whilst wife slept) and how he was taking up a teaching job (English) next term. Frankly, I was unconvinced by his dialogue and discreetly tested him on what I know about qualifying as a teacher and he answered everything accurately and eloquently-my racist shortcomings were being challenged every time he opened his mouth. Forgive the long winded account but you see integration is a two way street, if I'd not engaged him I would have made the journey and left his cab sure in the belief he was on the next plane to Pakistan to train in a terror camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I've done business with Pakistanis for over 30 years, I've found them no less or more corrupt than any other group, but since they're far fewer in number the instances of corruption are far less than in the 'British' population. So your contributions are more about deriding multiculturism rather than addressing corruption which you'd previously acknowledged wasn't unique to any particular culture. There's plenty to fix, but why do so many people see the 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' strategy as the only means of addressing the problems? Little story for you Zamo...last Thursday I got a minicab to the station. The driver was a young Asian male with the full face beard and shaven head. Oh, my kneejerk prejudices went into full swing.."here's one of them al queda" I thought to myself, so I was immediately predisposed against him based solely on how he looked. He got out of the cab and helped me with my bags onto the backseat. He was very 'British' in what he spoke about and had a neutral accent. He told me of his young family and being up all night with his baby (whilst wife slept) and how he was taking up a teaching job (English) next term. Frankly, I was unconvinced by his dialogue and discreetly tested him on what I know about qualifying as a teacher and he answered everything accurately and eloquently-my racist shortcomings were being challenged every time he opened his mouth. Forgive the long winded account but you see integration is a two way street, if I'd not engaged him I would have made the journey and left his cab sure in the belief he was on the next plane to Pakistan to train in a terror camp. Seriously. You are sooooooooooo full of it. Either that or your local specsavers must do a fab ranger in rose tinted specs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Seriously. You are sooooooooooo full of it. Either that or your local specsavers must do a fab ranger in rose tinted specs. There you go again, you add nothing to the subject except insults and threats. Any neutral observer would think that you'd lost the argument and were trying to get the thread closed down. Oh yes, peace and love to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 There you go again, you add nothing to the subject except insults and threats. Wheres the threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Wheres the threat? Read back through your own posts. Oh yes, peace and love to you all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Any neutral observer would think that you'd lost the argument and were trying to get the thread closed down. Ill leave that to a certain group on here who are far better at that sort of thing than i could ever hope to be ---------- Post added 25-11-2013 at 13:58 ---------- Read back through your own posts. Show me please. My back button on my mouse isnt working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Seriously. You are sooooooooooo full of it. Either that or your local specsavers must do a fab ranger in rose tinted specs. Sorry, but which bit of my post causes you such indignation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Sarah Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Any neutral observer . Which isnt you by the way. ---------- Post added 25-11-2013 at 13:59 ---------- Sorry, but which bit of my post causes you such indignation? The words.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The words.. ......oh, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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