No User Name Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm not really interested in your personal campaign. I quite like the toilets in the new market. I told a lot of my friends who have young children so that they can use them too. There are too few toilets in town. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm not really interested in your personal campaign. I quite like the toilets in the new market. I told a lot of my friends who have young children so that they can use them too. There are too few toilets in town. I am not interested in his personal campaign either . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No User Name Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 I am not interested in his personal campaign either . Pot, kettle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGLIL Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 I'm not really interested in your personal campaign. I quite like the toilets in the new market. I told a lot of my friends who have young children so that they can use them too. There are too few toilets in town. There are NO public toilets in Sheffield , this LABOUR , Council closed them all down , now we are the same as the third world countrys like, Pakiistan,India etc. I have been a socialist all my adult life but I will never vote for another labour council, I cannot think of another council that has perforformed as bad as as this one . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazjea Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 There are NO public toilets in Sheffield , this LABOUR , Council closed them all down , now we are the same as the third world countrys like, Pakiistan,India etc. I have been a socialist all my adult life but I will never vote for another labour council, I cannot think of another council that has perforformed as bad as as this one . YES There are. At least 15 according to council website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 There are NO public toilets in Sheffield , this LABOUR , Council closed them all down , now we are the same as the third world countrys like, Pakiistan,India etc. Never read anything so stupid in my life. Try opening your eyes more. No public toilets? What about all these then.. Angel Street Exchange Street The Moor Birley Moor Road Bolsterstone Darnall Deepcar Endcliffe Park Forge Dam Glen Howe Park Graves Park Hillsborough Park Millhouses Park Rivelin Valley Park Whirlow Brook Park Oh yeah and all these freely accessible through the Council's Community Toilet Scheme.... B&Q, Greenland Road, S9 5HE Bankers Draft, Market Place, S1 2GH Benjamin Huntsman, Cambridge Street, S1 4HP Debenhams, The Moor, S1 3LR Frog and Parrot, Division Street, S1 4GF Henry's Bar, Wellington Street S1 4HS John Lewis, Barkers Pool, S1 1EP Lifestyle Centre, Beighton, S20 1HE Lloyds, The Sheffield Waterworks Company, Division Street, S1 4GF Morrisons, Ecclesfield, S35 9WJ Morrisons, Meadowhead, S8 7UE Morrisons, Penistone Road, S6 2GY Orchard Square, City Centre, S1 2FB Sheffield Railway Station, Sheaf Square, S1 2BP SOYO, Rockingham Street, S1 4EB Swim Inn, Glossop Road, S10 2GW The Varsity, West Street, S1 4EW The Wick At Both Ends, West Street, S1 4EW Sorby House, Spital Hill, S4 7LG Walkabout, Caver Street, S1 4FS Yates's, Cambridge Street, S1 4HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Pot, kettle... Well i have used and worked on the Sheffield Markets since the late 1940's . So lets have your input on the debate , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
999tigger Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 ecco thanks for that never knew about the community toilet scheme. Knew about Debenhams and Orchard square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moke Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I genuinely can't believe this debate is still lingering. The argumenthas turned completely away from some of the real core truths about the market. 1.) Shopping habits have changed - as demonstrated by the wallpaper poster on this thread, a large % of people want only a convenient, car centric shopping experience. Loads of legitimate reasons behind this, from modern work life, car dominance, general decline in our desire to buy fresh food daily, right down to people liking the sterile nature of pre packaged food that dominates the superstores. This cut right through all walks off life, from millionaires through to those receiving benefits. Supermarkets now exist in most suburbs, so even the previous core consumer of many markets (low incomes, pensioners) are increasingly likely to shop there instead. 2.) Although smaller in number, a still significant number of people don't like supermarkets. They (like me) still prefer closer contact with the food, the feeling of buying locally, supporting local jobs by shopping smaller. They like a more personal shopping experience. This is more of a split between those who are sticking with tradition (and more likely to have lower incomes, traditional market consumers), but increasingly, and lucrative, those who are making a conscious choice to buy in this more communitycentred way. The first group was served adequately by castle market, but as a group in decline, something needed to be done to attract the second group, or face the stark reality of the markets peetering out of existence. The second group want the same meat and veg as the first group, but are also mire lilly to want the higher quality items you see in continental markets. Stalls selling those kinds of goods simply wouldn't have chanced their arm in Castle market, the demographicsjust wwouldn't have made it viable. If people accept that something needed to be done to arrestthe decline, then the question had to be what would be most effective. Two choices - try to change the tired, unwelcoming (to the Important emerging customers) or create a new environment that could caterfor old and new. It's obvious that trying to change the culture, environment, quality and experiencedoffered by castle market would have been neigh on impossible. The costs were high, and the outcomes poor at best. A new building offers the best shot for everyone, but obviously would have to go through massive adjustment whilst old customers rediscover their habits, while new customers start to find and use it. It's already happening through the stalls that have failed and those that have opened and done well. The straw man is this idea that the place is supposed to be a version of a supermarket, there to attract those who actively enjoy their current habits. A market is what it is - local produce for those who want to shop in a different way. Bitching about the lack of free car park is to massively miss the point. All onmy honest opinion, as a tree hugging super market hating market user. If you ddon't like it, it probably wasn't meant for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe-b-1 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 ---------- Post added 19-06-2014 at 08:59 ---------- [/color] You may as well go to Crystal Peaks in that case. Actually I've just run those journies through my head and getting to Chesterfield from Mosborough is a far better run than trying to access Sheffield City Centre. But I'd still go to Crystal Peaks anyhow. I was repyling to another poster who said Chesterfield Market was easier to get to from anywhere South of woodseats and from where I live in Mosborough (Moor) Sheffield market is much easier to get to. I've only lived here for 50 years and don't require to run any journeys through my head. Also for anyone using public transport it costs £2.80 to get from here to Sheffield and £5.80 to Chesterfield with the Chesterfield round trip taking about an hour longer. The whereabouts of Crystal Peaks was not and is not relevant to my reply since it was purely to do with Chesterfield and Sheffield markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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