Is homophobia genetic?

[RootsBooster]

Lots of assumptions there, for a while I was thinking you must be an all knowing God, for only he can know the minds of every homophobe, but it turns out you are just guessing. Better luck next time.

 

That's it?

That's your comeback?

[angos]

That's it?

That's your comeback?

 

You were just guessing.

I don't know any homophobic people.

So I don't know what they all think.

Leaving me unable to counter your guess.

I can only do the same as you, and guess, which would be a tad pointless.

[Cyclone]

Is it the case on this thread as well that you "aren't trying to prove anything", but are instead just wasting everyone's time by arguing about the definition of bigot?

[RootsBooster]

You were just guessing.

I don't know any homophobic people.

So I don't know what they all think.

Leaving me unable to counter your guess.

I can only do the same as you, and guess, which would be a tad pointless.

 

There's quite a difference between guessing and following logic.

 

Your problem is that you spend so much time trying to argue the minutiae of definitions that you seem to believe that a brief and limited dictionary definition is a full description of something, which it isn't.

 

The Oxford definition of a boat (the marine type) is:

a small vessel for travelling over water, propelled by oars, sails, or an engine

If I said that boats produce a wake behind them you could try to argue that I'm guessing at it, because it's not included in the definition of boat.

It's not a guess though, it's following logic to a logical conclusion.

 

Getting back to homophobia, you could argue that someone with a rational & non-extreme aversion to homosexuals/homosexuality might not be a bigot, they might not believe that their opinions on homosexuality are superior and they may be open to other peoples' opinions on the matter.

 

Due to the irrational & extreme nature of homophobia though, it would follow logic that a homophobe would believe their opinions on homosexuality to be right and wouldn't accept the differing opinions of others on the matter.

 

This would indeed make them bigots.

 

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Is it the case on this thread as well that you "aren't trying to prove anything", but are instead just wasting everyone's time by arguing about the definition of bigot?

 

As usual, yes

[angos]

Is it the case on this thread as well that you "aren't trying to prove anything", but are instead just wasting everyone's time by arguing about the definition of bigot?

 

You are wasting your own time, I choose to post on here, and if you think your time is being wasted, may I suggest you find something better to do.

 

My guess though is you will continue trolling with your troll mates.

 

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There's quite a difference between guessing and following logic.

 

 

I agree, the problem though is that you didn't follow logic, you guessed. To think you know the minds of all homophobes demonstrates some kind of superiority complex, when you feel superior and are intolerant of someone because of their opinion, you become the bigot.

[RootsBooster]

I agree, the problem though is that you didn't follow logic, you guessed. To think you know the minds of all homophobes demonstrates some kind of superiority complex, when you feel superior and are intolerant of someone because of their opinion, you become the bigot.

 

How did I not follow logic?

 

What makes you so sure I guessed instead?

 

To think you know my mind demonstrates some kind of superiority complex, when you feel superior and are intolerant of someone because of their opinion, you become the bigot.

 

 

Again, after the explanation I gave in the previous post, how did I not follow logic?

[angos]

How did I not follow logic?

 

What makes you so sure I guessed instead?

 

To think you know my mind demonstrates some kind of superiority complex, when you feel superior and are intolerant of someone because of their opinion, you become the bigot.

 

 

Again, after the explanation I gave in the previous post, how did I not follow logic?

 

Following logic doesn't give you the power to read minds, your mind is simply creating a scenario that fits in with your prejudices.

[RootsBooster]

Following logic doesn't give you the power to read minds, your mind is simply creating a scenario that fits in with your prejudices.

 

I haven't claimed to read any minds. I'll take it, then, that as usual you've run out of wriggle space and decided to just say "NO! WRONG!".

 

Otherwise you'd provide some kind of structured argument, instead of trying to skew the discussion even more.

 

I notice you didn't answer the question BTW

[erebus]

Genetic ex[lanations are a very convenient excuse for certain individuals to justify particular antisocial behavours. The less informed one is the better, as easy simplistic reason can justify anything from rape to beating up individuals who one susupects is different, or even they just do not know, and therefore time to give them a lesson of British Values.

[Michael_W]

Some parents of gay children find it difficult to come to terms with their child being gay, probably more so in the past than now, but nevertheless it still happens .... is that homophobia ? If so is it a genetic response or a learned one ?

 

If I use 'homophobic' (as some would call it) language, jokingly or otherwise does that mean I dislike / fear or even hate gay people .... personally I think much alleged homophobia like alleged racism is taken out of context, it may be insensitive or offensive to some, but certainly not hateful !

I'm not talking about aggressive bullying or intimidating gay people here I'm talking about loose remarks, jokes or comments, we all know the sort !