mafya Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 by you of course :roll:for accusing fellow forummers that people arnt brainwashed by islam Are you trying to get this thread shut down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 you have to take a side, would you want to side with the extremist who kills or the other? Of course I take the side of the moderate Mel. Knowing plenty of them, why wouldn't I? That doesn't mean I have to believe their religion, or that they follow it better than other Muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowperil Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What about the taqiyya, the ability to lie in the name of allah! http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm Given this,can we trust that this is all on the level and they are really having their extreme beliefs eradicated? Or is it as has already been said and helping them to get parole earlier? Given that taqiyya exists can we believe that supposed moderate muslims actually do condone the actions of the extreme ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Apparently Imams are going to meet prisoners and sit and chat with them about islam and challenge their distorted (the suns words not mine) views on islam and eventually un brainwash them read the full article in the sun but you cant read it online now without paying theres a short bit here https://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/39114/ not 100% convinced itll work BUT ive always said you dont beat terrorism by driving a wedge between communities, there has to be dialogue What a pity the poor saps were brainwashed from birth and conditioned to accept the radicalisation in the first place. ---------- Post added 17-12-2013 at 00:03 ---------- theyre all muslim now answer my question............what solution would YOU put on the table instead to solve the problem, you seem to be poo pooing this one Stopping brainwashing the kids from birth would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Apparently Imams are going to meet prisoners and sit and chat with them about islam and challenge their distorted (the suns words not mine) views on islam and eventually un brainwash them read the full article in the sun but you cant read it online now without paying theres a short bit here https://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/39114/ not 100% convinced itll work BUT ive always said you dont beat terrorism by driving a wedge between communities, there has to be dialogue Sounds like a brilliant idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Are you trying to get this thread shut down? sorry mate i leave that to people like you who spit the dummy out when things dont go your way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angos Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 What about the taqiyya, the ability to lie in the name of allah! http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm Given this,can we trust that this is all on the level and they are really having their extreme beliefs eradicated? Or is it as has already been said and helping them to get parole earlier? Given that taqiyya exists can we believe that supposed moderate muslims actually do condone the actions of the extreme ones? Don't expect a truthful answer on that one, writing it down kind of shot themselves in the foot. They believe the Qur'an to be the word of God and it tells them to deceive non-believers if it advances the cause Islam. Nothing there to be suspicious about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 sorry mate i leave that to people like you who spit the dummy out when things dont go your way that's rich, since its you lot twisting and turning and muddying the water instead of admitting something you don't want, a positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 It's worth a try. Anything that lessens the chance of violence is in my book. Agreed!!! Regards Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfish1936 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 If the people who went from Europe in the 11th to 13th centuries to kill moslems and win back the Holy Land could have been counselled by moderate priests, they might not have gone forth to slay as they did. ---------- Post added 17-12-2013 at 18:37 ---------- What about the taqiyya, the ability to lie in the name of allah! http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm Ranks level with the Christian idea that one does not need to keep an oath sworn to a heretic or infidel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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