James Sexton Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I would guess that No 35 was empty in 1910-11, as this would explain the lack of an entry in both the 1911 directory (compiled in 1910) and the 1911 census return. Between 1911 and 1954 I have directories for 1925, 1931, 1937, 1940, 1942 and 1951 - also some later ones. They don't mention any companies that might have leased the yard, but the 1925 directory shows the occupant of No 35 as "Robert Pasley, manager", while the 1931 directory shows him as a "pensioner". Robert Pasley died in 1935, and directories from 1937 to 1951 show "Horace Clayton, cutler" at No 35, as in the 1954 to 1965 directories. Horace Clayton died in 1966, and the 1971 directory shows his wife Emily at No 35. The 1973 directory does not show No 35, and so it had presumably been demolished by 1972. Thanks again. There are quite a few names to look into, but I can confirm 35 Bedford street house still exists. It was one of the few remaining on the street, purchased by my wife in 2011. However, the yard to the side, as of 1999 was 'acquired' by the council following the loss of the deeds in 1997. They then built Sheffield Community Transport, leaving a very small strip of land which allows access to her garden at the rear from the front. The council are now trying to charge my wife for the use of this land, which I believe once belonged to the house. I have a lot of circumstantial evidence, but I would like to have concrete proof to submit to the land registry to request the full freehold title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillsbro Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Thanks again. There are quite a few names to look into, but I can confirm 35 Bedford street house still exists...In that case it's surprising that it isn't mentioned in the 1973 directory (or the one for 1974). Perhaps it was again empty for an extended period. I'm familiar with lost deeds - in 1986 I bought a bungalow and the seller had lost the deeds. It caused a few problems though eventually it was all sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Sexton Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 In that case it's surprising that it isn't mentioned in the 1973 directory (or the one for 1974). Perhaps it was again empty for an extended period. I'm familiar with lost deeds - in 1986 I bought a bungalow and the seller had lost the deeds. It caused a few problems though eventually it was all sorted out. Yes, this is a major issue as I do not particularly want to be charged over 1.5K a year just to be able to access the back garden from the side gate... The council reverted back to the 1969 deeds during the purchase and claimed the land as their own. Since I believe the land was acquired after the remaining houses were demolished (1970+), then I firmly believe the council have stolen the land and charging the real owner for access, which is pure madness. Anyway my battle continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 Yes, this is a major issue as I do not particularly want to be charged over 1.5K a year just to be able to access the back garden from the side gate... The council reverted back to the 1969 deeds during the purchase and claimed the land as their own. Since I believe the land was acquired after the remaining houses were demolished (1970+), then I firmly believe the council have stolen the land and charging the real owner for access, which is pure madness. Anyway my battle continues... I seem to remember the picture framing shop No.37-39 had gates to the side of 35. Advice would be try and get pictures of Bedford Street at the central library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Sexton Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 I seem to remember the picture framing shop No.37-39 had gates to the side of 35. Advice would be try and get pictures of Bedford Street at the central library. Indeed there are gates and the OS maps prove it. The yard could access some out buildings towards the back and through a second set of gates access the framing shop. I have been unable to source any pictures that are close up showing these gates, but I have a few from various angles (from picture Sheffield). Also the aerial photos form the 1939, 1960 and 1970 do not show sufficient detail. I can obtain sufficient detail from on taken in 1999, but that is a couple of years too late. I am in communication with an archivist at the library who has been very helpful. Although I have not yet found the smoking gun. However, even if I find photographic evidence that it existed it still would not show who owned the land and this is the main problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaffa1 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Dear Hillsbro,retep and jaffa1, thanks for all your hard work. If the owners of 35 Bedford street used to build coaches in 1905, then it would make a lot of sense why they needed a yard and the outbuildings at the back. Not sure what happened between this date and 1954 when Clayton Horace was resident of 35. Was the yard and outbuildings leased do you think? Thanks again Did it belong to the coal merchant that came after the coach builders? I remember the coal merchants being there as a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Sexton Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Did it belong to the coal merchant that came after the coach builders? I remember the coal merchants being there as a kid. I believe the coal merchant was next door, so number 31. I thought the coach builders were using 35? Records at the time were a bit unreliable unfortunately... It is a shame I cannot find the deeds for number 31 to shed some light on who owned the yard and out buildings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillsbro Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 I believe the coal merchant was next door, so number 31. I thought the coach builders were using 35?...Yes, the coal merchant was at No 31 - see here for the 1954 Kelly's directory entry for Bedford Street. The 1905 and 1911 directories shows a coach builder at No 35 - see here for the 1905 entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Scott Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 My 4th Great Grandfather was Joseph Tomlinson who started Joseph Tomlinson and sons Ltd Funeral directors in, I think 1860. After his death in around 1904 his son Joseph Tomlinson (my 3rd great grandfather) had taken over the business and expanded it into the leading establishment in the area. They had many properties across the whole of Sheffield, the largest being at Borough Mews which had the three storey stable to store their many horses. Tomlinson was also responsible for having one of the first charabancs in Sheffield. When Joseph Tomlinson (3rd great grandfather) died in 1922 his son Joseph Godfrey Knight Tomlinson (2nd great grandfather) had taken over the business and expanded it further into the taxi cab market, creating Tomlinson red line taxis. Joseph G K Tomlinson then died in 1958. I don’t have much more information about who inherited the business after that or if it got sold when J G K died. https://images.app.goo.gl/ANPXSzg4zWzcFEuV6 https://images.app.goo.gl/Rf8keobhYxjeYe6X8 https://images.app.goo.gl/DRCSFammjWfXYSBa9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Scott Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Joseph Tomlinson and sons also had a property where they used to make the carriages used for funerals, weddings and taxis. The property was Broomhall Mews where the Goodyear tyre factory was, on Upper Hannover street. They had room for 50 horses to be stabled there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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