Temperance bars for the youth?

[anywebsite]

There is one in Rotherham, not sure if it's closed down yet ... https://www.facebook.com/TheWhistleStopSweetShop If one can stay open for nearly a year in Rotherham, maybe Sheffield could support one too.

Edited January 10, 2014 by anywebsite

[LeMaquis]

Society does not need more division. Lord Voldemort is alive and living in No 10 Downing Street it seems

 

In the middle of a debate about young people drinking, Cliff Richard and the Beatles we get this. The only link I can think of is that it shows that someone has been drinking.

[Cyclone]

Maybe he was thinking that it would set non-drinker against drinker, they'd be rioting in the streets trying and trying to buy each other a drink to no avail.

 

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There is one in Rotherham, not sure if it's closed down yet ... https://www.facebook.com/TheWhistleStopSweetShop If one can stay open for nearly a year in Rotherham, maybe Sheffield could support one too.

 

Interesting, but it's open 9 - 1730 and it's facebook page appears to be mainly about the sweetshop side of business.

 

What's the unique thing it offers as a temperance bar that you couldn't get in any other cafe or coffee shop already? Without going there, and if I had to guess, I bet it's more of a nostalgia bar, selling soda's that were popular in the 50's and 60's, dandelion and burdock, cream soda, etc...

[ECCOnoob]

Lovely and quaint as this place is it is hardly going to appeal to our so called hard done by Yoof is it?

 

McDonalds, Burger Kings and KFCs are where the Yoof hang out these days. Its nothing to do with alcohol or non alcohol its about being part of an image, a set, a gang.

 

Just take a look at any of these places on a Saturday afternoon. Take a look at the car parks of these places in the small hours on a Friday/Thursday night.

 

Its full of the young socialising all biding their time until they can plaster on enough make up or grow enough stubble to convince a landlord they are over 18 and serve them a pint or bottle of WKD.

 

Anyone who really thinks temperance bars in 2014 will attact anyone under a certain age is out of thier mind. They are a nice little novelty with an old fashioned appeal for a change every now and then. Just like going to a country cottage tea room or an afternoon tea in a posh hotel.

 

However, a viable business to attract the young crowd it aint.

 

 

 

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[jfish1936]

Interesting ideas. Look at the life of "Aggie" Weston:

http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_agnus_weston.htm

She was concerned about sailors having nowhere to go ashore except bars and brothels, so opened places for them.

 

HMS Weston-Super-Mare was nicknamed "Aggie on horseback" in satirical honour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_warships_by_nickname

[truman]

Young people are skint, they can't afford to indulge and become feckless inebriates like their parents and older siblings did (and still do). A temperance bar would be a good business decision, it would provide a place for them to socialise, and without highly regressive alcohol taxation to consider, one could sell drinks (fruit juice, coffee etc.) for far far less than the price of a pint, and increase the profit margin massively.

 

They'd also be more inclined to go to these venues, as they would be able to socialise with people their own age, pubs nowadays are devoid of young people, they are full of older people. The average age of a customer in my local pub must already be North of 60.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25652991

 

 

 

Young people need a place to socialise, and pubs are not the place to be. They are full of ****** up pensioners who go out, blowing their generous weekly welfare payments and cause trouble.

 

The 'too responsible for their own good, generation', need somewhere to go out and socialise with people their own age.

 

What do you think?

 

If you reckon it's a good idea Chem then why not set one up?

[Supertramp]

If you reckon it's a good idea Chem then why not set one up?

 

Because property, rents and grow your own food.

[Anna B]

My, how things go round in circles.

 

Anyone remember 'signing the pledge'? (to forgo all alcoholic beverages) and Temperance Societies that were around after the First World War?

 

My Grandmother, a staunch Methodist, made my Grandad sign it before she'd marry him. He swore it was the making of him, and they were married for 60+ years.

 

I wonder what they'd make of today's binge drinking youth...?

Edited January 10, 2014 by Anna B

[Cyclone]

Lovely and quaint as this place is it is hardly going to appeal to our so called hard done by Yoof is it?

 

McDonalds, Burger Kings and KFCs are where the Yoof hang out these days. Its nothing to do with alcohol or non alcohol its about being part of an image, a set, a gang.

 

Just take a look at any of these places on a Saturday afternoon. Take a look at the car parks of these places in the small hours on a Friday/Thursday night.

 

Its full of the young socialising all biding their time until they can plaster on enough make up or grow enough stubble to convince a landlord they are over 18 and serve them a pint or bottle of WKD.

I was under the impression that he was including people in the 18 - 25 age range. They can certainly drink if they want to, and if they don't there are still plenty of places for them to socialise, including pubs.

 

Anyone who really thinks temperance bars in 2014 will attact anyone under a certain age is out of thier mind. They are a nice little novelty with an old fashioned appeal for a change every now and then. Just like going to a country cottage tea room or an afternoon tea in a posh hotel.

 

However, a viable business to attract the young crowd it aint.

 

 

I don't see what they would be that a coffee shop, cafe or milkshake place isn't already.

 

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My, how things go round in circles.

 

Anyone remember 'signing the pledge'? (to forgo all alcoholic beverages) and Temperance Societies that were around after the First World War?

 

My Grandmother, a staunch Methodist, made my Grandad sign it before she'd marry him. He swore it was the making of him, and they were married for 60+ years.

 

I wonder what they'd make of today's binge drinking youth...?

 

And did he forgo alcohol for his entire life? Or was it just for a few years?

 

My grandparents seemed to like a bit of brandy in their tea or the occasional shot of whisky.

Edited August 19, 2018 by Cyclone

[Bypassblade]

Compare a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night in the pub today, to a Sunday, M, Tu, W, Th 10 years ago.

 

Compare a Friday/Saturday night today to one ten years ago.

 

I don't deny the fact that a minority of young people still go out to drink. But they are now a minority of the youth. Young people are drinking less than ever.

 

What's the average age in your local? How has that age changed in the last 10 years?

 

Chem1st were you old enough to go in a pub 10 years ago? genuine question.