OAP pass, getting out and about/potential cuts

[Annie Bynnol]

Thats because they haven't reached state pension age, so using the term 'pensioners' to describe them is misleading in this context.

 

Just to be clear, as the state pension age for women goes up, so does the age that both men and women are eligible for a bus pass. If (for example) women become state pensioners at 62 years and 8 months, then that is the age they, and men may request a senior travel pass.

 

I'm fortunate because I already have one, and I make good use of it. I can understand making the start time 9.30 for seniors as at 9 am public transport is usually still busy with commuters. When I worked after pension age I paid my inward fare, but got home for nothing, which, given I was earning, seemed fair.

 

Men aged 60 -to 64 were and are not entitled to a state pension.

Many men and women between 60 and 64 are entitled to a pension through their work.

Therefore the only way 50% of the population between 60 and 64 could be pensioners is and was through their works pensions.

 

The changes mean that over some 60 pensioners are paying for but not receiving a subsidy that other over 60s pensioners are getting.

 

True this anomaly will disappear in 7 years time but in the meantime perhaps those who are receiving the statutory ENCTS benefit would consider that losing some of their SYPTE extras is no big hardship.

Children and young families are the biggest losers and deserve a bigger slice of the subsidy - but they can't or don't tend to vote locally or nationally.

[hillsbro]

…Many men and women between 60 and 64 are entitled to a pension through their work…

Quite correct - I am one of them. I got my occupational pension (and my travel pass) at 60, and my state pension at 65 last year.

…. perhaps those who are receiving the statutory ENCTS benefit would consider that losing some of their SYPTE extras is no big hardship.

Also quite correct - it is no great hardship. But as Beechnut observed in post #76, people aged over 60 have often contributed a huge amount in taxes over the years.

[juniee]

i am also one of these , i get my private pension, i am 60 but will not get my state pension until nearly 65 which means that i will not qualify for a OAP bus pass or the winter heating allowance which the govt has kept very quiet about and as mrs macbeth has pointed out some of these rules are not working out fairly.

two friends of mine got their pensions at 60 but another two will not get them until 68 and there are only 4 years difference in our ages.

also men used to qualiy for a oap bus pass and the winter heating allowance buy now they have to wait as well.

Edited February 3, 2014 by juniee

[spilldig]

disabled people who use the bus before 9am are probably going to be tax payers going to work?

 

(or into education which usually leads to work)

 

trust me, its not by choice that most people use the bus to commute.. its not exactly nice...

 

I could be wrong but I thought the disability pass could be used anytime ?

[Plain Talker]

I could be wrong but I thought the disability pass could be used anytime ?

 

Currently, yes, but it looks like that privilege may be withdrawn in these changes.

[dutch]

I could be wrong but I thought the disability pass could be used anytime ?

 

At the moment yes.

[morrisminor]

ITA papers are here if you want to read them http://meetings.southyorks.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=167&MId=2451&Ver=4&zTS=B

[Walkley Dave]

You can use your OAP pass on any scheduled bus in England and Wales (not Scotland for some reason) after 0930 hours.

 

…....

 

It's part of independence: the law is different; education is different; prescriptions are different; etc……

[Annie Bynnol]

You can use your OAP pass on any scheduled bus in England and Wales...

 

ENCTS passes can only be used in England.

[Mick Sage]

£240,000 has to be saved from somewhere and you can't expect it to come from south Yorkshire MPs expenses which topped £760,000 last year cus that wouldn't be fair, would it !