LeMaquis Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Whilst I wouldn't say it directly effects day to day life, the European Court of Human Rights has come up with this business about life sentences for murderers being unlawful. Regards Doom No it hasn't. It has questioned whether whole life tariffs without possibility of eventual release are legal. Life sentences are not in question. Whole life tariffs are. These only affect about 40 of the 4,900 prisoners currently serving life sentences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419 Here's another new UKIP member. Bert Leech has in the past been involved with the BNP and NF. What charming company UKIP keeps these days; http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/article/3345/ukips-far-right-sugar-daddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Ordinary man in the street? That lot? Only if you think Hitler was ordinary. Never heard Tony Benn being likened to Hitler before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 No it hasn't. It has questioned whether whole life tariffs without possibility of eventual release are legal. Life sentences are not in question. Whole life tariffs are. These only affect about 40 of the 4,900 prisoners currently serving life sentences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419 As a result our Government are now having to consider allowing longer sentences......It's a ridiculous situation. Regards Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Whilst I wouldn't say it directly effects day to day life, the European Court of Human Rights has come up with this business about life sentences for murderers being unlawful. Regards Doom The European Court of Human Rights is nothing to do with the EU, they''re unrelated entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Can you actually name an EU law that effects your day-to-day life.? There are loads but to answer the question properly you would need to look at those aspects that have a positive impact too. Think most people are agreed that free trade with the EU is vital - the number of jobs reliant on that free trade is going to be massive. And when it comes down to le crunch nobody is going to want to throw their job away so we can more easily eject the likes of Abu Hamza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The European Court of Human Rights is nothing to do with the EU, they''re unrelated entities. They may well be, but they're another element of Europe that we could do without sticking their beaks into our business. I can't see them having any further influence should UKIP get their way. http://www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/706-ukip-party-leader-nigel-farage-has-slammed-the-echr-ruling-as-abhorrent-and-arrogant Well said that man. Regards Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The European Court of Human Rights is nothing to do with the EU, they''re unrelated entities. Not entirely. Being a signatory to the ECHR is a requisite of EU membership (see Copenhagen Criteria), therefore we couldn't withdraw from the ECHR (perhaps with a view of replacing it with a UK Bill of Rights) without also compromising our EU membership. The Lisbon Treaty requires the EU to become a signatory to the ECHR, which will shackle all EU member states to the ECHR, even if there was a mechanism to withdraw from only the ECHR. Happy to stand corrected but that is my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 No it hasn't. It has questioned whether whole life tariffs without possibility of eventual release are legal. Life sentences are not in question. Whole life tariffs are. These only affect about 40 of the 4,900 prisoners currently serving life sentences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23230419 Here's another new UKIP member. Bert Leech has in the past been involved with the BNP and NF. What charming company UKIP keeps these days; http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/ukip/article/3345/ukips-far-right-sugar-daddy They've a long way to go to catch up with this mob, Senior Ministers In Blair's Government Face Crime Probe Over Iraq 'War Crimes' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/12/iraq-war-crimes-uk-blair_n_4583610.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Never heard Tony Benn being likened to Hitler before Who by? Nigel Farage has been compared to Hitler. At least Benn never welcomed into the Labour Party the Third Reich Appreciation Society in the form of far right fellow travellers like Bert Leech. ---------- Post added 14-01-2014 at 11:10 ---------- As a result our Government are now having to consider allowing longer sentences...... Which isn't the same as your original claim that life sentences have been made unlawful. ---------- Post added 14-01-2014 at 11:13 ---------- They've a long way to go to catch up with this mob, Senior Ministers In Blair's Government Face Crime Probe Over Iraq 'War Crimes' http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/12/iraq-war-crimes-uk-blair_n_4583610.html Speaking as someone who has marched against the NF, BNP and the war in Iraq I would welcome the chance for international law to prosecute war criminals like Blair. How do you stand on international law like the ECHR? Or are you a bit two-faced on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 People in Brussels who we did not elect have power over us that supercedes our elected government. No foreign person should have an ounce of power over Britain. We should be free to do things our own way, succeed or fail, it should be in our own hands. If it wasn't for the EU, Britain would still be the "dirty man of Europe", dumping sewage and rubbish into rivers and seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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