Speckled Hen Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The man who took Britain into 2 illegal wars became Peace Envoy to the Middle East in 2007. How has the job gone so far? I'm not impressed, although his bank manager probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The man who took Britain into 2 illegal wars became Peace Envoy to the Middle East in 2007. How has the job gone so far? I'm not impressed, although his bank manager probably is. Go on then, I'll bite, why were they illegal wars? Is there such a thing as a legal war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 God must have stopped talking to Blair after he told him to invade Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualtrough Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The man who took Britain into 2 illegal wars became Peace Envoy to the Middle East in 2007. How has the job gone so far? I'm not impressed, although his bank manager probably is. They weren't illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The man who took Britain into 2 illegal wars became Peace Envoy to the Middle East in 2007. How has the job gone so far? I'm not impressed, although his bank manager probably is. I think it is safe to say that he failed at both jobs, but got very rich in the process, so I doubt he is overly bothered what you and I think of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Go on then, I'll bite, why were they illegal wars? Is there such a thing as a legal war? If he'd had real justification to invade Iraq he wouldn't have needed a dodgy dossier, lies about WMD, talk of 45 minutes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speckled Hen Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 They weren't illegal. That's a matter for debate. The fact that his role as peace envoy has left the middle east as a hot bed of violence and civil war isn't. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/legal-staff-ruled-blairs-war-illegal-1877854.html Tony Blair is to be presented with claims that his decision to topple Saddam Hussein by force was illegal before his appearance at the Iraq inquiry this week. Two senior Whitehall lawyers are expected to claim that the former prime minister's decision to send British troops to aid the US-led invasion was illegal as it did not have the clear backing of the United Nations. Sir Michael Wood, the most senior lawyer at the Foreign Office before the war, will give evidence to the inquiry tomorrow. His deputy, Elizabeth Wilmshurst, who resigned in 2003 in protest over military action, will also appear. It is thought they will suggest they believed military force was illegal without an explicit UN resolution giving approval for the invasion. Britain and the US tried to secure such a resolution to put an end to the legal doubts, but failed to convince their UN partners. Ms Wilmshurst has never spoken publicly of events that led to her resignation; Sir Michael has never admitted advising the Government that the war would be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Which parts of the middle east has big tone brought peace to again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 That's a matter for debate. The fact that his role as peace envoy has left the middle east as a hot bed of violence and civil war isn't. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/legal-staff-ruled-blairs-war-illegal-1877854.html Tony Blair is to be presented with claims that his decision to topple Saddam Hussein by force was illegal before his appearance at the Iraq inquiry this week. Two senior Whitehall lawyers are expected to claim that the former prime minister's decision to send British troops to aid the US-led invasion was illegal as it did not have the clear backing of the United Nations. Sir Michael Wood, the most senior lawyer at the Foreign Office before the war, will give evidence to the inquiry tomorrow. His deputy, Elizabeth Wilmshurst, who resigned in 2003 in protest over military action, will also appear. It is thought they will suggest they believed military force was illegal without an explicit UN resolution giving approval for the invasion. Britain and the US tried to secure such a resolution to put an end to the legal doubts, but failed to convince their UN partners. Ms Wilmshurst has never spoken publicly of events that led to her resignation; Sir Michael has never admitted advising the Government that the war would be illegal. In 2003 Top lawyers from Greece filed a lawsuit with the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague on Monday against senior UK officials. They want to indict Prime Minister Tony Blair and other senior members of the UK government and military for allegedly breaching international law by attacking Iraq. The lawyers, from the Athens Bar Council, say they have compiled a dossier of "strong evidence" against the officials, including more than 20 alleged war crimes. They include the killing of Iraqi civilians, depriving the population of drinking water in cities such as Basra, the destruction of food supplies and the bombardment of residential areas. The allegations are based on dozens of reports about the conflict, printed in newspapers and broadcast on television. The Bar Association said the alleged crimes breached the statute of the International Criminal Court. International Criminal Court logo The ICHR has rejected a string of cases over Iraq Among those accused with Mr Blair are Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, and Admiral Sir Michael Boyce, who recently retired as Chief of Defence Staff. The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court received the dossier, saying the contents would be reviewed. The prosecutor of the International Criminal Court will now decide whether the case falls within his jurisdiction. If he thinks it does, a panel of judges must also give approval before an investigation can begin. Heinous crimes The British Government has always stressed it acted within the law during the conflict. But a senior Greek lawyer, who helped draw up the lawsuit, said it would be difficult for the British prime minister and others to defend themselves against the charges. She alleged that heinous crimes have been committed which should not go unpunished. The Greek lawyers announced in May their intention to take legal action. They said the war in Iraq breached international treaties such as the Charter of the United Nations, the Geneva Conventions and the ICC's own Statute. However, the ICC has already rejected almost 40 cases over the war in Iraq. To date I don't think he as been charged or found guilty of orchestrating an illegal war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Clowning Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 He is too protected to ever be indited for a war crime, he is in this job as a pay off if you ask me. Whats he actually do anyway, we don't here a great deal about it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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