alchresearch Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 "One motorist from the Liverpool area, was allowed to continue driving with 45 points." Incredible. How can that happen? Someone asked this on another forum and these were the replies: Often you'll find that the person in charge of fleet vehicles doesn't actually HAVE a driving licence (nothing that says they have to), so unless that person gives the actual driver details they may very well get them. Without a licence DVLA then create a "ghost" licence to fix the points to, but it doesn't actually exist, and it's rare to get banned on a ghost licence ( especially if it's only used to park points, not to allocate them for your bad driving). The truth doesn't always make for a good headline The courts can choose not to impose a ban if they think it would cause exceptional hardship, but they must ignore any circumstances which have already been used to avoid a totting ban in the last 3 years. So while in theory there's no limit to the number of times you can avoid a ban, in practice you'd have to have a lot of very unusual circumstances to do it more than once or twice and to rack up more than 15 or so points and keep your licence. And contrary to popular opinion, magistrates tend not to be completely stupid... So I suspect that most of these cases are either (a) admin/IT ****-ups where the court hasn't been aware of the diver's History or (b) someone who commits a lot of offences in a short time period and has them all dealt with in a single court hearing, so only has to make a single hardship plea. An example of (b) would be a case I read about on a solicitor's blog of an HGV driver who failed to notice a temporary speed limit on a road he obviously drove a lot, and by the time the first NIP arrived he'd already been caught 9 times by the same set of average speed cameras. Is that ban-worthy? The magistrates obviously thought not, and let him keep driving despite his 27 points. Another hypothetical example would be a person who gets home from several months abroad and finds that the person he left the car with has been driving like a knob, that there are 5 unopened NIPs on the doormat and that the deadline for replying to them has already passed... But of course, the full details of cases like that wouldn't make as good a headline as "driver with a squillion points keeps licence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 None at all. Never have had any either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annbaker Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Not one in 38 years of driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldleaf Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've not got any. Never have actually. I'm quite proud of that after twenty odd years of driving. If I was to get points, I think I'd do it like this guy. He's got 29 of the things and still kept his license. If a thing is worth doing, it is worth over-doing. I have "0" over almost 40 years driving! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampent Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I have 55 points. I still drive. Trick is to paint yer car a different colour each week and ride the 120 bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Fail Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I have no points, but the person's name that I use to drive around on has plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WasThatWise Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The main point of this for me is the guy and others like him regularly speed but don't get a ban because they will lose their job (e.g. taxi drivers) or their home etc but at the same time the government are telling us that "speed kills". So are the judiciary by their actions saying it's better you eventually kill someone than lose your job/house? As such of course they will by then have killed someone and (we can hope) lose their job and house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobos Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've got a clean licence now but at one time I had 15 points on my licence. 3 times in one week for speeding on those red routes in Lincolnshire where HGVs are restricted to 40 mph for miles, and one for no insurance that was a travesty of a court judgment as well, so I ended up with 15 points on my licence I had to go to Leeds in front of the traffic commissioner as an HGV driver and depending on it for my livelihood they let me drive if I did not get a another point on my licence for a period of 12 months I learnt my lesson then and I have never had a point on my licence since and that was over 13 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emma royd Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 How many points are on your licence 4. One on each corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 None...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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