davyboy Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Not prone to having heroes - but tony benn was one. He died old and happy, his extraordinary life was well lived, no tragedy here, just sadness and pride - RIP comrade./QUOTE] I totally agree. I heard him speak at the end of a "March for Jobs" in the early 1980s. A fantastic orator, listening to him was an inspiration. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staninoodle Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 I found Tony Benn to be very engaging,he made politics sound interesting,and I loved to hear him speak.I couldnt agree with all he said,but i could enjoy his debates. He had strong beliefs and spoke with honesty and openess in supportof them. I loved listening to the bloke,i am a very big admirer i miss his clashes on Question time with Robin Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blake Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Robin Day came from a much more working class background than Tony Benn did, who never understood the working class at all. That was the irony of it. Benn used to hail his limousine back to his mansion in Belgravia. Day just went back to a modest London town house, which he had earned the money himself, by hard work to buy . And yet it looked to a casual viewer as if it was Day that was the establishment, and Benn, the revolutionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Robin Day came from a much more working class background than Tony Benn did, who never understood the working class at all. That was the irony of it. Benn used to hail his limousine back to his mansion in Belgravia. Day just went back to a modest London town house, which he had earned the money himself, by hard work to buy . And yet it looked to a casual viewer as if it was Day that was the establishment, and Benn, the revolutionary. Did he really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 A man with conviction and standards, which reflected in his politics. There are very few of those, and even one less now. Should his family read this, I send my sincere condolences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The Labour party is now the party of the pseudo socialists, Blair, Miliband,The Benns, and a cast thousands. None of them has the slightest idea as to what life is like for the people that they pretend to represent, they spend their lives talking the talk while at the same looking down from the lofty position that they were born into and never leave behind. There is no longer a party that truly represents the working[ and non working ]classes any longer and for New Labour:rolleyes: to pretend to be that party is the biggest deceit possible. What if they are and why should there be a party that truly represents the working class, whatever that means?So you're saying the working class need a special party just because they're working class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 What if they are and why should there be a party that truly represents the working class, whatever that means?So you're saying the working class need a special party just because they're working class? What I am saying [which I thought was clear] is that the Labour Party is no longer the the party of of the ordinary working man and woman. By this I mean the manual, shop, N.H.S., and transport workers among others. Now you may think that middle class profesionals can be classed as being part of the above group but! it is obvious to any one that they are not, it is this group that are now the major supporters of New Labour and it is from this group that New? Labour recruit its candidates who then are put forward into the traditional working class areas to represent them. So what I am saying is that those candidates have no idea as to what life is like for the [shall we say] lower orders and have just jumped onto the political band wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I feel genuinely saddened by Benn's passing. I don't normally get moved by the death of a politician, but he was a man with substance. A very rare commodity in today's market. Even his son hasn't had it handed down to him. I went to Glastonbury to see him speak, just after the Iraq war had started - so 2003. His skill as an orator was exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 What I am saying [which I thought was clear] is that the Labour Party is no longer the the party of of the ordinary working man and woman. By this I mean the manual, shop, N.H.S., and transport workers among others. Now you may think that middle class profesionals can be classed as being part of the above group but! it is obvious to any one that they are not, it is this group that are now the major supporters of New Labour and it is from this group that New? Labour recruit its candidates who then are put forward into the traditional working class areas to represent them. So what I am saying is that those candidates have no idea as to what life is like for the [shall we say] lower orders and have just jumped onto the political band wagon. The political divide today is very simple. The Tories are the party of old money and Labour is the party of new money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 The political divide today is very simple. The Tories are the party of old money and Labour is the party of new money. And who is he party of no money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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