GLASGOWOODS Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 So, less rights, less responsibilities? ---------- Post added 11-05-2015 at 13:50 ---------- Oh yes and: ■ Scrapping the cap on higher education student numbers I wonder how that sits with the right wing nutters saying too many people (and foreigners) are going to university? You have the right to listen to music in your own home, but you also have a responsibility to your neighbour that the music isn't too loud, so as not infringe on their human rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Mecky provided a link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32683869 one of the points on the link was about the changes to our adoption of the Human Rights charter. Another was the point I quoted. there were a lot more - I could have quoted many of them. Oh right. But this thread is about human rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 You can't lose 'human rights'- because there's no such thing. Maybe focus more on 'human duties'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 You can't lose 'human rights'- because there's no such thing. Maybe focus more on 'human duties'? The two things aren't separate. Fulfilling your duties to others is a way of helping others assert/enjoy their rights. Not sure where you are going with this. What does the UKIP handbook say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Oh right. But this thread is about human rights... Oh well - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 The two things aren't separate. Fulfilling your duties to others is a way of helping others assert/enjoy their rights. No. A duty can exist even in the absence of a right. Read Durkheim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 You can't lose 'human rights'- because there's no such thing. Maybe focus more on 'human duties'? There are things that society declares to be "human rights", they exist as much as "laws" or "justice"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I 100% agree with you. There will be varying levels of mental illness, but either way they shouldn't be released into society. After they have fully recovered from their mental illness, and are 100% sane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 No. A duty can exist even in the absence of a right. Read Durkheim? That may be but at the most basic level your moral obligations and duties as a human being allow others to achieve their rights. You may be interested in the following to help you understand this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Human_Duties_and_Responsibilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick1 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Not sure where you are going with this. What does the UKIP handbook say? UKIP are pointing out that Cameron's talk of doing away with HR and replacing it with a British Bill of Rights is codswallop! The EU won't allow it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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