francypants Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 but they are not, kids these days are not even tought the times table!! My grandchildren ARE taught their times tables at their school. Mind you their school is classed as outstanding by Ofsted. Back on topic, I'm going to sign the petition because I think penalising parents is totally wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 My grandchildren ARE taught their times tables at their school. Mind you their school is classed as outstanding by Ofsted. Back on topic, I'm going to sign the petition because I think penalising parents is totally wrong. They aren't being penalised, they know the conditions before they agree to send them to school.The fine is for breaking the rules. Just like speeding tickets etc,if you don't break the rules you don't get a fine or thats the view of many people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francypants Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 They aren't being penalised, they know the conditions before they agree to send them to school.The fine is for breaking the rules. Just like speeding tickets etc,if you don't break the rules you don't get a fine or thats the view of many people on here. BUT the rules have been altered haven't they ? Previous to Sept 2013 it was up to the headteacher whether a term time holiday was granted or not..... now it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 BUT the rules have been altered haven't they ? Previous to Sept 2013 it was up to the headteacher whether a term time holiday was granted or not..... now it isn't. It still can be IIRC. In addition how many actually ask the head? Not many otherwise there would be no need to start threatening fines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpikeMac Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 but they are not, kids these days are not even tought the times table!! I'm not offering a comment on whether schools are better today, or not, but your mis-spelt claim above is incorrect. Kids these days are taught loads of maths at junior school. That includes recall of the times tables up to 10X10. You can check it out here. The English NC has a section about spelling too:rolleyes: ---------- Post added 27-02-2014 at 15:31 ---------- It still can be IIRC. In addition how many actually ask the head? Not many otherwise there would be no need to start threatening fines. The rules are much tighter. Heads now have very little discretion about what they can and can't authorise. Which is an odd rule change for a libertarian Conservative government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'm not offering a comment on whether schools are better today, or not, but your mis-spelt claim above is incorrect. Kids these days are taught loads of maths at junior school. That includes recall of the times tables up to 10X10. You can check it out here. The English NC has a section about spelling too:rolleyes: ---------- Post added 27-02-2014 at 15:31 ---------- The rules are much tighter. Heads now have very little discretion about what they can and can't authorise. Which is an odd rule change for a libertarian Conservative government. Thats across the board i think at the moment as well. Ring in because your car won't start and loose a days pay, ring in and say your child is ill and still get paid. Now thats hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerstein Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think it should be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Travel can be a great form of education but parents shouldn't be allowed to take their kids out of school just so that they can all swan off to Benidorm together. They need to be able to explain why it is educational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 How about kids getting 5 bakers days just like the teachers, or or perhaps kids coukd go on strike because they dont lije the conditions being imposed upon them by teachers!!? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they already get the same 5 baker days... They don't go to school when the teachers are having training do they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Correct me if I'm wrong, but they already get the same 5 baker days... They don't go to school when the teachers are having training do they! I think she means she wants the kids to go to school for five days when there are no teachers there. No, I'm not sure why either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockjaw Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 yes i do, but lets give the kids the same rights as teachers, or are teachers special?. Well, they are a paid workforce rather than a bunch of people receiving a free service but, let's be clear here, if you give the kids the same "rights" as the teachers wrt "Baker Days" then you will be taking 5 days holiday away from them. Do you unserstand yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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