S8 Blade Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ask the owners of the community hall, see if they know who owns those spaces. It may be the community hall uses the spaces but does not actually own them. I'm 99% certain they don't, as the Community Hall is on the opposite side of the road and the parking (to be fair, it's a large patch of concrete with kerbs, so parking!) is outside the shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedway fan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The DVLA operate in Meadowhall car park quite often, I've been there a couple of times recently and seen cars clamped by them. There's usually a massive sticker on the back window saying "NO TAX" The one that really made me laugh was about 9ish at night on a Friday, clearly the owners had gone to the cinema or something and will come back to find their car clamped :hihi: :hihi: I fail to see why the DVLA would operate in any car park.If an untaxed vehicle is parked there it is not illegal,it is on private land and off the road,it therefore does not require tax.Surely the police should have to wait until it is driven onto the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonjon Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I'm 99% certain they don't, as the Community Hall is on the opposite side of the road and the parking (to be fair, it's a large patch of concrete with kerbs, so parking!) is outside the shops. The shops are probably pee'd off that people park there to use the hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantomas Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I fail to see why the DVLA would operate in any car park.If an untaxed vehicle is parked there it is not illegal,it is on private land and off the road,it therefore does not require tax.Surely the police should have to wait until it is driven onto the road. If your vehicle is 'off road' you have to declare that to the DVLA when you would normally buy your tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 I fail to see why the DVLA would operate in any car park.If an untaxed vehicle is parked there it is not illegal,it is on private land and off the road,it therefore does not require tax.Surely the police should have to wait until it is driven onto the road. Aren't car parks like Meadowhall/Tesco/Asda etc classed as being "the road" for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act? I assume it's the same for VED.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedway fan Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Aren't car parks like Meadowhall/Tesco/Asda etc classed as being "the road" for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act? I assume it's the same for VED.. That's a good point Truman.Iknow the footpath is classed as the road but I don't know about car parks.This could be a really grey area unless there is specific legislation on the subject.I do know it is okay to park an untaxed,uninsured and untested vehicle on something like a pub car park that isn't marked out or properly surfaced, but as you say supermarkets,malls etc could be different.You've got me thinking,I'll have to look into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 That's a good point Truman.Iknow the footpath is classed as the road but I don't know about car parks.This could be a really grey area unless there is specific legislation on the subject.I do know it is okay to park an untaxed,uninsured and untested vehicle on something like a pub car park that isn't marked out or properly surfaced, but as you say supermarkets,malls etc could be different.You've got me thinking,I'll have to look into this. The thing is though..your car must be sorned if it isn't taxed..even if you keep it in your own garage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8 Blade Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 The shops are probably pee'd off that people park there to use the hall. There's a Chinese takeaway, a hairdressers, a cafe and an insurance company (I think that's what it is). There are about 10 spaces & it's rare they're all taken at various times of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincentb Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Aren't car parks like Meadowhall/Tesco/Asda etc classed as being "the road" for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act? Yes they are. A vehicle must be taxed and insured if it goes on the road, or any public place - which definitely includes shops' car parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I fail to see why the DVLA would operate in any car park.If an untaxed vehicle is parked there it is not illegal,it is on private land and off the road,it therefore does not require tax.Surely the police should have to wait until it is driven onto the road. The DVLA probably operate on the assumption that the car drove there that day and as such was on the road without tax. The car park has CCTV so it's doubtful it was dumped there before it's tax ran out. Also there's the continuous enforcement law, which probably allows for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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