Phanerothyme Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 How can they track a mobile phone world wide but loose a massive plane??, somthing stinks here! You can track a mobile phone world wide, provided it's within about 20 miles of a cell tower, but preferably it should be within a few thousand yards. There aren't many cell towers in the middle of the ocean. What would be the result of an unknown ,non responding, aircraft overflying any country?? Surely a military plane would be sent up to investigate or it would be shot down. If the aircraft crossed the isthmus using the Hong Kong to Phuket air corridor, as far as military radar was concerned, it would not be suspicious. Military Air traffic control may not be linked to civilian ATC, The military *did* track an aircraft along this route but did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 What would be the result of an unknown ,non responding, aircraft overflying any country?? Surely a military plane would be sent up to investigate or it would be shot down. In a volatile heavily militarised region the chances are practically zero. It didn't fly over Thailand, which is on one of the two possible flight corridors. And Thai authorities confirm that if it had been detected by them they would have been obliged to intercept it: http://www.pattayamail.com/news/thai-air-force-reaffirms-mh370-was-not-detected-in-thai-airspace-35936 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnadam Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Whatever has happened to them i feel really sorry for them. Investigations would not let them come back if the plane has been crashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 In a volatile heavily militarised region the chances are practically zero. It didn't fly over Thailand, which is on one of the two possible flight corridors. And Thai authorities confirm that if it had been detected by them they would have been obliged to intercept it: http://www.pattayamail.com/news/thai-air-force-reaffirms-mh370-was-not-detected-in-thai-airspace-35936 How are civilian aircraft identified by the military radar?............from what i have been reading they just show as blips on the radar without any strict identification of who they are,so how do military detect a threat unless civilian ATC informs that contact has been lost with an aircraft and it needs to be investigated?....it seems like the moving blips on a military radar are just assumed to be commercial aircraft flying on recognised flight paths at a normal height,but can't be identified more than that,so how do they know what constitutes a threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 There's a good, unbiased, non-sensationalist, technical article about the story so far here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/18/mh370_airliner_mystery_the_iel_regi_pubdinnerparty_guide/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 How are civilian aircraft identified by the military radar? Doesn't the military radar show blips that are squarking (telling them who they are) and blips that are not (hostile enemy aircraft) It's my understanding that any military installation tracking a large 'unknown' across the country would get very worried about whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Doesn't the military radar show blips that are squarking (telling them who they are) and blips that are not (hostile enemy aircraft) There's a lot of things that may be detected by radar that aren't hostile enemy aircraft. And as to whether they show which aircraft have working transponders, I think that depends on how integrated your military and civilian radar systems are, and how sophisticated they are. And if there's one thing this whole incident has shown up, it's how unwilling military groups are at giving up details on their radar installations and it's capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 One theory doing the rounds is that to disable ACARS you have to go through a trapdoor and into the bowels of the plane to get to the place to do it.So the last ACARS was at 0107 and it was due to give more info 30 minutes later,the last words from pilot/co pilot were just after 0107,so whoever disabled ACARS must have been in the process of doing it while 'alright goodnight' was being said.It can't have been that person.........has anybody come up with the theory of somebody already being hidden inside the aircraft before takeoff,below the passengers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 has anybody come up with the theory of somebody already being hidden inside the aircraft before takeoff,below the passengers? You can get to the electronics bay from the passenger cabin on most 777s without tools / keys. You only need a cooperative cabin crew to allow you to start lifting the carpet up. Or, you can just disable it from the cockpit if the crew are cooperating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 One theory doing the rounds is that to disable ACARS you have to go through a trapdoor and into the bowels of the plane to get to the place to do it.So the last ACARS was at 0107 and it was due to give more info 30 minutes later,the last words from pilot/co pilot were just after 0107,so whoever disabled ACARS must have been in the process of doing it while 'alright goodnight' was being said.It can't have been that person.........has anybody come up with the theory of somebody already being hidden inside the aircraft before takeoff,below the passengers? As I understand it the "goodnight" was from the co-pilot...if your theory is correct then the pilot could have disabled ACARS...no need for a stowaway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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