"Continuous improvement" methodology now exists within the government.

[salsafan]

https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/transforming-government-services-to-make-them-more-efficient-and-effective-for-users/supporting-pages/using-continuous-improvement-methods-in-government

 

I guess now they are operating like a business. Shouldn't they have done this a long time ago ? It may also mean a person can never be fired either.

[Mr Clowning]

Its is run like a business in the sense that politicians now don't do anything else but see it as a career. The likes of Cameron and Milliband come straight out of political education and into politics with real no life skills or background in the fields that they manage.

 

I would like to see people running the education department to have had some idea of the jobs that they make policies for instead of setting up think tanks and consultancies.

 

It is now a business and nothing more.

[Mecky]

That's right Mr Clowning. Life is full of managers trying to organise stuff but they just don't have a clue about what they're doing in the lifecycle of operational services/products.

 

It's pathetic. Continuous Tinkering just for the sake of it is what we call it and the people who are trying to push through new ways of doing things don't like to be challenged.

 

They ask the staff for new ideas. Excuse me, but isn't that skiving managers are supposed to be doing? It's always the same - If it's a good idea, which it rarely is, they'll try and take credit for it. If it's a bad idea, which is more often than not, it's always someone else's fault.

[SevenRivers]

Management methodologies are a big money spinner for the UK government.

 

Things like PRINCE2 and ITIL basically originated from the UK government as a way of minimising risk. They're now standard qualifications for IT workers and project managers, but of course there is a whole industry built up around proving training courses and exams, employing thousands of people, the government probably get some sort of royalty payment for every person that gets qualified.

[Phanerothyme]

The Toyota Production System comes to government? Oh good.

[Cyclone]

In the manifesto, Kaizan, 6 Sigma and JIT policies.

[Mecky]

In the manifesto, Kaizan, 6 Sigma and JIT policies.

 

We had Kaizan at work, they weren't best pleased with my comments and got the boot after a few months when they were sussed.

[Cyclone]

I don't understand, who got the boot? Kaizan isn't a group, it's a process.

[Mecky]

I don't understand, who got the boot? Kaizan isn't a group, it's a process.

 

It is also a business

[Zamo]

The Toyota Production System comes to government? Oh good.

 

Would be a good idea if the government were car manufacturers.

 

The problem is that the objective in car manufacturing (churn out the same thing over and over as efficiently as possible to a prescribed quality standard) is not the same as the objective when delivering public sector services (identify and delivery appropriate outcomes determined by an individual's requirements and circumstances).