boyfriday Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 But where is the choice? If a business chooses to offer a prayer room and give time out to the religious then that is up to them. But we are moving towards this become an obligation by default because of the cost of fighting law suits, employment tribunals etc. Where do the religious get off making these sort of demands of others? All of these 'issues' stem from the failure of people with religious beliefs to keep it personal. If they want to imposes silly conditions on themselves then that is fine... just stop asking others to help out. I'm baffled, good employers appreciate the benefits of providing their employees with a good working environment because it positively affects their performance. What next, will you be complaining about employers being compelled to provide indoor toilets or separate arrangements for the sexes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Why the double standard? You are saying that in an Islamic school it is OK to instruct non-muslim teachers to wear a hajib but in a non-Islam hairdressers it is not OK for the employer to tell a muslim not to wear a hajib!! This is exactly the sort of thing that winds people up. Precisely, its always everyone else that as to bend over backward to accommodate their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Why the double standard? You are saying that in an Islamic school it is OK to instruct non-muslim teachers to wear a hajib but in a non-Islam hairdressers it is not OK for the employer to tell a muslim not to wear a hajib!! Since you raised the subject of the Islamic school demanding that female teachers wear the hijab do you think they should be allowed to enforce that policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Precisely, its always everyone else that as to bend over backward to accommodate their beliefs. So what sacrifices have you made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanava Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 So what sacrifices have you made? I have never slaughtered an animal or person as an offering to a deity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsafan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 No, she was treating everyone equally, she expects her employee's to show their hair, be they white, black, Muslims, Christian, Atheist. Its not an unreasonable rule for an hair salon. No, when I wrote the above about "discrimination", I meant the Discrimination Act within Employment Law. I was actually wrong in assumption that the Act is titled Discrimination Act, but in reality, it is now currently classified as Equality Act. Of which, underneath this it incorporate 3 separate Acts which were in place before 2010. https://www.gov.uk/equality-act-2010-guidance I am not talking about how she prefers to treat people, and what actually happened, and to be honest, as I am not there, so I cannot assume what occured either. But I can only participate by discussing the laws on employment on an objective level. Sex Discrimination Act 1975 Race Relations Act 1976 Disability Discrimination Act 1995 Previously the above is quite distinct. Now, it is under the same Equality Act. It does cover ageism as well as gender biases and so forth. (Maybe in terms of gender biase, there is also a goal to move towards the Millennium Goal which UK has also pledged to agree to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 I have never slaughtered an animal or person as an offering to a deity. Do Muslims do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salsafan Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Do you guys actually think that these entities are merely changing inline with the law, than any other person actually who is muslim is kicking up this kind of fuss overall ? If this is the case, then isn't the newspaper quite misleading ? Considering that these laws changed in 2010. Who or what instigated this change and was there a direct EU or G8 goals which enabled such laws to be changed in the first place? If so, then I feel ever so sorry for those British Muslims who have to put up with this kind of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 You couldn't make it up... ...but apparently you can. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26375545 Finally proof that the right wing totally make up stories to demonise Muslims, although we all already knew that..didn't we? The bloke is a nut job - it's as simple as that. Angel1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyfriday Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 The bloke is a nut job - it's as simple as that. Angel1 Don't doubt it, but there are too many gullible people wanting to believe his nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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