megalithic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 No, and you know that. Being in a position of power does not give you the right to abuse that power. It looks as though a trial will take place to see if these people acted criminally or not. If it was a policeman that killed a student it would be a different matter. Though as it was a pesky foreigner you are all defending the possible criminal actions. Of who ? The guards or the deportee ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 If this bloke was was kicking off about being deported then tough. The safety of other passengers and other people in the airport is far more important than treating a foreign criminal with kid gloves just to appease the bleeding hearts among us. Dont forget ,this bloke had a conviction for violence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 If this bloke was here illegally and was kicking off about being deported then tough. The safety of other passengers and other people in the airport is far more important than treating an illegal with kid gloves just to appease the bleeding hearts among us. ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattythefish Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Not being peaceful and calm isn't justification for manslaughter though is it? There are recognised safe ways of restraing violent or aggressive individuals. If the security guards used unsafe practises (as I strongly suspect is the case) then the charges are appropriate. i am sure they were using the recognized methods but if someone is intent on carrying on resistance there comes a point where they are effectively harming themselves dont you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Of who ? The guards or the deportee ? The guards, that is what we are talking about. Follow the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 The guards, that is what we are talking about. Follow the thread. "We" ? My apologies, i thought it was an open discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charmer Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 "We" ? My apologies, i thought it was an open discussion. It was, we were talking about the actions of the guards (check the thread title). You entered and asked a question that showed that you had no idea what was going on in the conversation, despite having posted before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megalithic Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 It was, we were talking about the actions of the guards (check the thread title). You entered and asked a question that showed that you had no idea what was going on in the conversation, despite having posted before. No. The OP also mentions the deportee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 i am sure they were using the recognized methods Why are you sure? It's highly unlikely that using safe, approved methods of restraint would result in someone's death. but if someone is intent on carrying on resistance there comes a point where they are effectively harming themselves dont you think? No. If a person is restrained using safe techniques they'll tire themselves out before they come to serious harm. ---------- Post added 20-03-2014 at 19:53 ---------- Not being peaceful and calm isn't justification for manslaughter though is it? There are recognised safe ways of restraing violent or aggressive individuals. If the security guards used unsafe practises (as I strongly suspect is the case) then the charges are appropriate. So basically you're saying the Uk can't deport anyone? I'm saying nothing of the sort - you seem to be willfully misinterpreting what I said. I'm not complaining about this man being deported - I'm saying that if people need to be restrained they should be restrained safely, without being killed in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 how can this be right that this deportee Jimmy Mubenga g4s guards can be charged with manslaughter? surely if the deportee had been peaceful and calm when put on the plane he would not have had to be restrained? If the G4S guards have been trained, then they should be aware of what they were legally obliged to do. If the training that they received was minimal, then it will be down to G4S bosses, but that would never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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