LeMaquis Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 I'm seeing similarities between the current UK government and Nazi Germany. Could you list them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Could you list them. Yes I could, why? Can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 You need a critical mass of people to get things done. That is, in my opinion, one of the driving factors behind most governments desire to control and manipulate the Internet and social media. Knowledge is power.Given a sufficiently-thick political skin, that problem can be easily solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickiethecat Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Also, for people who are so poor and maybe in debt, who are struggling to feed and provide for themselves; wouldn't they be better off going to a police station, and asking to be imprisoned (fed, clothed, sheltered) for say 1 year. They'd be better off spending their benefits on essentials like food and shelter instead of booze, fags and mobile phone contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 You need a critical mass of people to get things done. That is, in my opinion, one of the driving factors behind most governments desire to control and manipulate the Internet and social media. Knowledge is power. I think so too. The last thing that the people running the show want, is for the unprivileged to be a unified cohesive organised force, serving their own interests, pursuing their own agenda etc. If you get the chance, I'd recommend watching the film, they also have a website here: http://inequalityforall.com One of the points they made was the crushing of the unions (in the US, by Reagon; which I guess would be around the same time Thatcher sorted out the unions in the UK). There was a correlation between the smashing of the unions and wages becoming stagnant, i.e. not rising inline with inflation and cost of living; but actually lowering, so people having to work longer hours, women having to work, and eventually, people getting in to dept, in order to maintain the same living standards of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 You need a critical mass of people to get things done. That is, in my opinion, one of the driving factors behind most governments desire to control and manipulate the Internet and social media. Knowledge is power. Absolutely agree. Passive resistance worked for Ghandi, but he was a clever, charismatic leader of men, (and women,) an organiser and a great stratigist. I'm not sure we've got one of those.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trade Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Just seen this brilliant film documentary (inequality for all), which addresses the issue of a widening gap between the rich and the poor. Also big business, globalisation, and business lobbying of politicians (which seems a lot like bribes for favourable taxation rules). Would recommend it to anyone. One take away, was how nobody is really looking out for the interests of the working and middle classes. We're just getting more and more screwed by the system; so, what can be done? How can the little guy change the system so it's not shafting him anymore? One (probably quite crazy) idea I had, was to threaten the establishment with mass voluntary imprisonment. If a critical mass of people say, we're not going to work ourselves to death like rats on a wheel, for a system that is screwing us, instead we're all going to opt out, and demand that you imprison, cloth and feed us. Would that shake things up? Sure, you'd need like 10% of the population to go along with the idea ... at least it would give the working man some leverage and negotiating power? Sometimes, when something isn't working for you, isn't the best course of action to stick a spanner in the works and break the system? Start by voting for anyone other than a national party, in every type of election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Absolutely agree. Passive resistance worked for Ghandi, but he was a clever, charismatic leader of men, (and women,) an organiser and a great stratigist. I'm not sure we've got one of those.... we just lost one (bob crowe) this country needs more men like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Problem with inequality is that it is perceived, as is equality. Put a bunch of Eton boys in a suit in charge and that perception is altered significantly in favour of inequality. Serious change in the political system is needed, but when it was nearly possible through the referendum on AV, which should have been for proper democratic representation in the first place, the majority of the country turned into the sheep they are and followed Lord Cameron. Ultimately nothing will ever change as long as people are blasé about their democratic duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maz3 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 How many million of people are there that would be better off asking to be imprisoned for a year? A lot of 'repeat offenders' have already worked out that they're happier and more secure in jail than trying to make a go of things outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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