Harry O Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 it sure is 30 - and it is very difficult to keep down to that speed. there is a speed camera at grenoside which is set very low. I've seen it flash at 32mph, so beware. The pedal under your right foot operates in two directions, if you ease the pressure on it when travelling on a horizontal or uphill road your vehicle will slow down. Also there are other gears to use besides the top gear. The camera at Grenoside is located in a 30mph limit so why do you consider it to be set "low"? There is a "bad" junction and also a pedestrian crossing a short distance away from it, personally I'd rather see a lower limit at that point. I drive for a living and have a clean licence, so it is possible to adhere to the laws of the road, a Sat Nav with a safety camera database also helps a tiny bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S92DA Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 If people were to drive carefully and not selfishly as if they were in a life or death rush, it would not matter what speed people went. Everyone would get where they needed to be in good time. The money collected from speeding fines does not go to the police. If it did then it would surely increase the incentive to 'trap' more speeders and the money could go toward more police officers/funding to fight crime/ better facilities etc. Although they would probably just end up with more PCSO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzybronze Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Forgive me for my anal approach to this subject; I studied Politics & Law at Uni & have come up with the following theory on the legitimacy of speeding: Thomas Locke developed the theory - I just bastardised it! The theory is: Parliament develops laws, but we don't vote on each individual law. and therefore for a law to be legitimate the majority of the population have to adhere to it....its called 'tacit consent' However if the majority of the population break that law.....Speeding over 70mph on a motorway for instance, or doing 40mph on Penistone Road.....that law becomes unjust...and should have no place in society!! Think mass boycott of poll tax, and the subsequent rebranding of it as a council tax. Nevertheless from a purely social point of view - we should all try and do 30 in 30 zones and 40 in 40 zones...the motoway, however.... Incidently, when I used to drive down Pensitone Road from town in the early hours (ie no other traffic) I used to cruise down the dual carriageway at 30mph and every light was on green, if i deviated from this I caught a red light. however this was 4 or 5 years ago...and I no longer cruise for prostitutes (THIS IS A JOKE!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The camera at Grenoside is located in a 30mph limit so why do you consider it to be set "low"? There is a "bad" junction and also a pedestrian crossing a short distance away from it, personally I'd rather see a lower limit at that point. probably because acpo guidelines indicate that no prosecution should take place unless the speed limit is exceeded by at least 10%+2mph, thus <35mph in a 30 zone, not 32. In general speedo's are not calibrated accurately in production cars and a 10% error is not uncommon. Hence the guideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Gazza - very emotive nonesense. Decapitated, why, did she have a large axe mounted on the bonnet? She could(n't I presume) see the lad in the road due to the other cars headlights. Was there something wrong with her own headlights, or her eyes? Even then, areas where pedestrians are commonly found have street lighting, see if you can find a 40 limit road inside the city limits that doesn't have street lighting on it. Nice touch though, with the baby in the story, makes it all the more believable, not. PS - I know you were just quoting it, but I'm afraid it sounds completely false to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibetyoulook Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Anyone losing their life needlessly is always very sad and can only hope and prey it never happens to me, you or anyone I know. I can also imagine when you're faced with the realities of speed and car traffic accidents it can be very traumatic. I see idiots on the road everyday, using their mobiles, leaving indicators on, not indicating, reading maps, eating and so-forth. All of these either confuse or distract attention away from the roads. Speed can be the difference between life and death but i can only assume in a lot of cases speed is not the cause of the actual accident? Drivers are being unfairly punished for speed because as i see it, its cost effective and easy to catch 'speeders' The difference between someone being hit at 30mph or 33mph is also the difference between someone being fined and penalised, possibly banned for what in the most part is a law abiding citizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomchap Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Ah! The innocence of the young. Politicians and councillors are scared of raising speed limits. If just one person dies on a stretch of road where a speed limit was raised, the locals will blame the decision makers for changing a speed limit. Before supertram (way before your time) Penistone road was mainly single carriageway and shared the volume of Hillsborough-City traffic with Langsett Road/Middlewood Road. Building the supertram along Langsett meant widening the alternative route. The road was made, now shall we raise speed limits accordingly.. Oooo-errr, sorry, I can't put that to the council. As for other dual carriageways with 30 mph limits, try Handsworth road, Meadowhead (200m), The ring road at manor top from the top end of Prince of wales road to Ridgeway road. Compare this to speed limits on Bawtry road, Rotherham (50mph, houses on both sides) and Chesterfield (70 mph from Dronfield to 50mph near Tesco along ring road) and you can see that Sheffield does have lower speed limits per road than most towns. However, in Theory, 30 mph is a mile every 2 minutes and few roads are more than a few miles long, so surely we just have to tolerate it and drive safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d71146 Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Correct - but as there's only one (fixed) speed camera on the road (on your left coming into town not long before the left turn towards Rutland Road) and it's dual carriageway, most people ignore the speed limit. I think I went through this camera inadvertently this morning doing just over 30mph I think about 32-33mph is their any percentage allowance on the actual speed that this camera activates and has anybody been caught out by this particular camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarby Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I always thought it was 40mph going up to hillsborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d71146 Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 I think I went through this camera inadvertently this morning doing just over 30mph I think about 32-33mph is their any percentage allowance on the actual speed that this camera activates and has anybody been caught out by this particular camera. I meant the one going into town not far from where those roadworks start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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