Mister M Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I've had a look on a disabilities website his sister was interviewed and said “I rang him regularly to check on him and so did friends, but because he was such a quiet and private person neither family nor friends knew just how bad it was". http://samedifference1.com/2014/07/22/rip-david-clapson/ Desperately sad that someone who served his country in Northern Ireland should end up dying with no food in his stomach. I'm sure a same fate wouldn't befall Esther McVey or Iain Duncan Smith. They're fully aware of the intricacies of the parliamentary expenses system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 I've had a look on a disabilities website his sister was interviewed and said “I rang him regularly to check on him and so did friends, but because he was such a quiet and private person neither family nor friends knew just how bad it was". http://samedifference1.com/2014/07/22/rip-david-clapson/ Desperately sad that someone who served his country in Northern Ireland should end up dying with no food in his stomach. I'm sure a same fate wouldn't befall Esther McVey or Iain Duncan Smith. They're fully aware of the intricacies of the parliamentary expenses system. What's the current stat - 1-10 or is it more? of homeless people are ex-forces. They way we get them back into civvy street is shameful, but that's another argument and IDS served too. Still this chap had what, 10 years with BT? As I said there are facts here we are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why will people not accept that there are simply not enough jobs to go round, and, what with automisation, computerisation, outsourcing to foreign countries etc, there never will be again. What jobs there are tend to be in certain areas, and relocating involves all sorts of other problems. And we haven't even touched on the problems with 0 hours, part-time etc. The government figures and propaganda are works of art in terms of manipulation and misinformation. Instead of punishing the unemployed, we need to be turning our attention to how we share out what work there is, and making it financially viable for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why will people not accept that there are simply not enough jobs to go round, and, what with automisation, computerisation, outsourcing to foreign countries etc, there never will be again. What jobs there are tend to be in certain areas, and relocating involves all sorts of other problems. And we haven't even touched on the problems with 0 hours, part-time etc. The government figures and propaganda are works of art in terms of manipulation and misinformation. Instead of punishing the unemployed, we need to be turning our attention to how we share out what work there is, and making it financially viable for all. What I don't understand is why people are being punished, when the cuts haven't made the slightest bit of difference. Borrowing is up and if the costs are down where is all the extra money going? To pay for MPs' 11%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ladd Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Only they ARE punishing the unemployed. http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27177767. Having to sign on everyday at those places is punishment. Unless things have changed massively there are hardly any jobs on the boards, some of those are made up, all held together by disinterested, and now overworked staff. If a jobcentre plus was worth it's salt it might be useful but I can't think of anyone who got a job as a result of going there. I never did when I was on the dole. Has anyone? I use job centres all over the UK, generally speaking I find them very good. I have recruited hundreds through them over the years. ---------- Post added 31-07-2014 at 12:00 ---------- What I don't understand is why people are being punished, when the cuts haven't made the slightest bit of difference. Borrowing is up and if the costs are down where is all the extra money going? To pay for MPs' 11%? The money is going on paying the interest on the debts that Labour incurred. ---------- Post added 31-07-2014 at 12:03 ---------- Why will people not accept that there are simply not enough jobs to go round, and, what with automisation, computerisation, outsourcing to foreign countries etc, there never will be again. What jobs there are tend to be in certain areas, and relocating involves all sorts of other problems. And we haven't even touched on the problems with 0 hours, part-time etc. The government figures and propaganda are works of art in terms of manipulation and misinformation. Instead of punishing the unemployed, we need to be turning our attention to how we share out what work there is, and making it financially viable for all. Recent research in US indicates that automation will replace 47% of all existing jobs by mid century. Automated delivery systems replacing drivers, an end to postal deliveries, drones used were humans used now. We have to start to think of a future where to work, will be the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tzijlstra Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Why will people not accept that there are simply not enough jobs to go round, and, what with automisation, computerisation, outsourcing to foreign countries etc, there never will be again. What jobs there are tend to be in certain areas, and relocating involves all sorts of other problems. And we haven't even touched on the problems with 0 hours, part-time etc. The government figures and propaganda are works of art in terms of manipulation and misinformation. Instead of punishing the unemployed, we need to be turning our attention to how we share out what work there is, and making it financially viable for all. Automatisation and, as you put it, computerisation (which is also just automatisation), has actually created jobs over the years. Outsourcing has actually created jobs over the years. The basis on which I can say that with some authority (aside from lecturing change management as a guest lecturer) is really simple: The automatisation process properly started in the 1980s, the working population at that time was considerably smaller than the working population is now. Not only that, it has actually considerably improved the quality of work being done and the quality of life of the working population on average. The only people who get hit with long-term unemployment in these processes are those that have never accepted that they needed to continue their professional development and banked on a job-for-life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 What I don't understand is why people are being punished, when the cuts haven't made the slightest bit of difference. Borrowing is up and if the costs are down where is all the extra money going? To pay for MPs' 11%? Probably to rectify this little embarrassment... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8688470.stm David Laws has revealed his predecessor left him a note reading: "I'm afraid there is no money." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusflower Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Probably to rectify this little embarrassment... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8688470.stm Nothing whatsoever to do with this then? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-global-economic-crisis/20425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 I use job centres all over the UK, generally speaking I find them very good. I have recruited hundreds through them over the years. ---------- Post added 31-07-2014 at 12:00 ---------- The money is going on paying the interest on the debts that Labour incurred. ---------- Post added 31-07-2014 at 12:03 ---------- Recent research in US indicates that automation will replace 47% of all existing jobs by mid century. Automated delivery systems replacing drivers, an end to postal deliveries, drones used were humans used now. We have to start to think of a future where to work, will be the exception. What sort of jobs do you advertise in the jobcentre? How do those applicants compare (if you check) with applications from other sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Nothing whatsoever to do with this then? http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-global-economic-crisis/20425 Not really no... You are going to want that justifying of course - whilst the global recession cannot be laid at Labours feet, their utterly abysmal handling of it, and the decade of piddling money away to buy votes to prop up their elections can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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