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Seems like good business to me. Obviously theres a call for halal products, they would be mental to ignore this if its going to make them money.

For my part i dont agree with halal slaughter but so what? I just shop somewhere else.

 

In an area of Halal meat eaters I don't see the problem. Most of us eat it anyway in our local Kebab house.

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In an area of Halal meat eaters I don't see the problem. Most of us eat it anyway in our local Kebab house.

 

Kebab houses, pizza shops, KFC's. my local chippy,

They all do halal yet we dont hear anyone kicking off. Ive never joined in with the people who think muslims are discriminated against, to a point ive been pretty unsympathetic to them but this thread makes me think, Would people have such a problem if we were talking Kosha meat?

Somehow i dont think so.

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In an area of Halal meat eaters I don't see the problem. Most of us eat it anyway in our local Kebab house.

 

Doner kebab is a Turkish dish, so one would expect the meat to be halal and I for one don't have a problem with eating it. The problems start when non Muslims foods are substituted for halal food.

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you do not have to be Muslim yourself, to think that it would be a good idea not to offer pork on a menu if you make a living, selling food and placing prominent advertisements, to that effect like WE SERVE NO PORK. As I said above, countless thousands of non-Muslim Malaysian and Indian Chinese restauranteurs and food vendors, do it all the time. They do it, not because anything like a religous authority is 'leaning' on them, but because they think they can make more money than they otherwise would if they sold pork.
I don't understand your argument. Have you ever tried one of turkey 'bacon' sandwiches ... :gag:

 

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Doner kebab is a Turkish dish, so one would expect the meat to be halal and I for one don't have a problem with eating it. The problems start when non Muslims foods are substituted for halal food.
Do you mean 'when non-Muslim foods are substituted BY halal food'. I'd agree with that, a 'turkey ham' and pineapple pizza just wouldn't taste the same.

 

They've never seemed to have a problem all these years and suddenly, this. It's like the campaign has suddenly been wound up a notch. Another tap on the wedge?

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Kebab houses, pizza shops, KFC's. my local chippy,

They all do halal yet we dont hear anyone kicking off.

 

Maybe because all those places start out being halal from the beginning so you know what to expect.

 

This is Subway removing some products which have been available for some time.

 

But your KFC reference - Halal franchises removed bacon from a chicken burger a while back, there's a nice long thread about it on here.

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If I'm understanding it correctly isn't it not so much that they only use halal meat in the beef and chicken range, which you sort of more or less expect from a Muslim run joint, but that now they're not going to offer anything in the bacon, ham, gammon range?

 

So they're not expanding their customer base, they're restricting it. Wouldn't have thought that made good business sense, even if it fits in with their religious scruples.

 

They're not restricting their customer base, as many of these outlets (185 of over 1700) have been halal since they opened. There have been halal outlets in the UK since 2007.

 

This isn't news, nothing is changing, it's just the Daily Mail stirring.

 

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This is Subway removing some products which have been available for some time.

 

They're not though. They've not announced plans to convert stores to halal. The Daily Mail has only just cottoned on to the fact that they have halal outlets.

 

As subway themselves put it, in their response to the Daily Mail's story:

Due to the growing popularity of the SUBWAY® chain, with the diverse multicultural population across the UK and Ireland, we put a programme in place in 2007 to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new store openings are considered in order that we meet consumer demand in each location.

 

http://www.subway.co.uk/media/news/halal-stores.aspx

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In an area of Halal meat eaters I don't see the problem. Most of us eat it anyway in our local Kebab house.

 

It does rather discriminate against those who fancied a bit of bacon though.

 

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They're not restricting their customer base, as many of these outlets (185 of over 1700) have been halal since they opened. There have been halal outlets in the UK since 2007.

 

This isn't news, nothing is changing, it's just the Daily Mail stirring.

 

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They're not though. They've not announced plans to convert stores to halal. The Daily Mail has only just cottoned on to the fact that they have halal outlets.

 

As subway themselves put it, in their response to the Daily Mail's story:

 

 

http://www.subway.co.uk/media/news/halal-stores.aspx

 

 

Or to put it another way. Not the Daily Mail

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/subway-adopts-sharia-law-185-uk-outlets-halal-meats-only-policy-1446781

 

Sandwiches at 185 Subway outlets in Britain and Ireland no longer come with ham or bacon as the pig is regarded as unclean in Islam.

 

The pork has been replaced by turkey in a move the company hopes will avoid offending Muslim customers. Turkey is halal, or clean, to Muslims

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I have not gone to subway since they opened up all over the place. Used to frequent when I was at uni, was sort of a novelty back then as we only had one in Sheffield.

 

A shame they have rid of the bacon etc, but since a few of them are in minority areas; they have to cater to that area. Makes good business sense.

 

Chinese places that open here cater to the British, and serve dishes that cater to local tastes here. That is how the food biz works.

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Or to put it another way. Not the Daily Mail

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/subway-adopts-sharia-law-185-uk-outlets-halal-meats-only-policy-1446781

 

Sandwiches at 185 Subway outlets in Britain and Ireland no longer come with ham or bacon as the pig is regarded as unclean in Islam.

 

The pork has been replaced by turkey in a move the company hopes will avoid offending Muslim customers. Turkey is halal, or clean, to Muslims

 

The Daily Mail were the first news source to run with the story yesterday. It wasn't run as a result of new plans announced or after any sort of press release by Subway. They've not changed their plans, or decided to create more halal outlets. As far as I can tell, it's business as usual at Subway, not "a move the company hopes will avoid offending muslim customers".

 

So, the "185 subway outlets in britain no longer come with ham or bacon" line is a fallacy, as most (all?) have been halal for some time. Most since they opened - and the policy has been running since 2007, so some of them haven't been serving ham or bacon for seven years.

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