The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[ECCOnoob]

15 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Exactly. Thankyou.

 

And yet Boris Johnson and his cohorts are not constantly hounded by questions about anti-Islamic problems in the Conservative party over and over again to the detriment of anything else he might want to say. 

 

What like here...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/nov/09/tory-islamophobia-hancock-accused-of-trying-to-isolate-warsi

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49763550

http://theconversation.com/conservative-party-is-in-complete-denial-about-its-islamophobia-problem-just-look-at-boris-johnson-if-you-need-proof-119674

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-party-islamophobia-racism-muslim-uk-investigate-tory-a8932851.html

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/britain-conservative-party-islamophobia-problem-190311093447086.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-party-islamophobia-muslim-council-britain-a8954141.html

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/jun/27/tory-islamophobia-inquiry-will-be-general-investigation-boris-johnson-sajid-javid

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-05-17/dossier-exposes-more-than-100-cases-of-islamophobia-and-racism-from-people-claiming-to-be-conservative-party-members/

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2018/08/why-aren-t-tories-cracking-down-islamophobia-their-party

https://www.thecanary.co/uk/analysis/2019/08/05/conservative-party-to-start-long-awaited-investigation-into-islamophobia-crisis/

https://metro.co.uk/2019/08/04/conservative-party-face-inquiry-islamophobia-10516130/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-islamophobia-inquiry-conservative-party-boris-johnson-a9038581.html

 

Waaaaa.  Media bias.    Waaaaa.

[Mister Gee]

On 08/11/2019 at 16:13, lottiecass said:

Banjo, I wonder if you think Corbyn will cost the party votes. The reason I ask is I have just been speaking to a bright 80 plus man,a lifelong socialist who will not be voting labour while Corbyn is leader. This isn't the first person to say the same to me.

I’ve just walked down our garden to the bin and have just been speaking to some fairies who are lifelong Tories, they won’t be voting Tory while Bonkers is leader.

Edited November 9, 2019 by Mister Gee

[Anna B]

3 hours ago, CaptainSwing said:

British people don't like socialist policies, but they do like the NHS, the state pension, the idea of nationalising most public services and utilities, etc.

Yet the NHS was a Labour policy that they had to fight the Conservatives to get through, and so was the state pension, both very much the backbone of socialist policies. And renationalisation of some Utilities is part of Labour's manifesto. 

 

The Tories have a talent for frightening the electorate with soundbites and propaganda that makes Labour sound like the harbinger of nothing but doom and gloom, whereas the Tory party are the one's born to rule...  I think it's a class thing, and we know how the working class think they should suck up to their betters.    

[Padders]

13 hours ago, Anna B said:

Yet the NHS was a Labour policy that they had to fight the Conservatives to get through, and so was the state pension, both very much the backbone of socialist policies. And renationalisation of some Utilities is part of Labour's manifesto. 

 

The Tories have a talent for frightening the electorate with soundbites and propaganda that makes Labour sound like the harbinger of nothing but doom and gloom, whereas the Tory party are the one's born to rule...  I think it's a class thing, and we know how the working class think they should suck up to their betters.    

Hi Anna, hope your keeping well..

I don't have to remind you that labour have fought for and got every single benefit that we have..

Sick pay,

Holiday pay,

Minimum wage'

Maternity leave,

Redundancy,

Free travel on buses,

Winter fuel allowance,

Unemployment pay,

I could go on and on, and every time the Tories say, Oh we can't afford that, and scaremonger..

Make no mistake, the Tories will chip away bit by bit, and take everything back.

[Anna B]

6 hours ago, Padders said:

Hi Anna, hope your keeping well..

I don't have to remind you that labour have fought for and got every single benefit that we have..

Sick pay,

Holiday pay,

Minimum wage'

Maternity leave,

Redundancy,

Free travel on buses,

Winter fuel allowance,

Unemployment pay,

I could go on and on, and every time the Tories say, Oh we can't afford that, and scaremonger..

Make no mistake, the Tories will chip away bit by bit, and take everything back.

Hi Padders

I couldn't agree more, this is why I can't understand why ordinary people vote Conservative. You only have to look at how the richest  have benefitted from the Tories at the expense of the poor to get the big picture.  What the Tories have done with 'Austerity' over the last 10 years is nothing short of criminal, yet suddenly with an election in the offing they find the money? Of course 90% of what they offer will not materialise, they are liars whichever way you look at it. They are the party of the elitist few and have proved it over and over again, but still people fall for it

[Dardandec]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

this is why I can't understand why ordinary people vote Conservative.

I would rather have Bernie Madoff in charge of public finances than a Labour government, that's why "ordinary" people vote for the tory's. But that will change in this election due to the tory's  being a pro leave party I reckon.

[Mister Gee]

11 minutes ago, Dardandec said:

I would rather have Bernie Madoff in charge of public finances than a Labour government, that's why "ordinary" people vote for the tory's. But that will change in this election due to the tory's  being a pro leave party I reckon.

I’ve never met anyone who’s ordinary and votes Tory.

[tinfoilhat]

19 minutes ago, Dardandec said:

I would rather have Bernie Madoff in charge of public finances than a Labour government, that's why "ordinary" people vote for the tory's. But that will change in this election due to the tory's  being a pro leave party I reckon.

And big fat liars, with no costings despite them also promising the Earth (the cost of brexit running at £6.3bn not withstanding). I’d rather corbyn be in charge - with his many many failures - than Boris Johnson and his bunch of incompetent liars.

2 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

I’ve never met anyone who’s ordinary and votes Tory.

I’m extraordinary and voted Tory in the past if that counts.

[Mister Gee]

7 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

And big fat liars, with no costings despite them also promising the Earth (the cost of brexit running at £6.3bn not withstanding). I’d rather corbyn be in charge - with his many many failures - than Boris Johnson and his bunch of incompetent liars.

I’m extraordinary and voted Tory in the past if that counts.

Sadly you’re now ordinary so you can’t be a Tory.

[ECCOnoob]

11 minutes ago, Mister Gee said:

I’ve never met anyone who’s ordinary and votes Tory.

Well maybe you need to ask a wider circle then.   The Tories got 13.6 million votes last election - that's a hell of a lot of billionaire elites isn't it.

 

The "few" as Corbyn keeps banging on about is pretty large by the looks of it.