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3 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

not really sure what point you are trying to make, it was beyond doubt that the certain prominent labour politicions in the party were trying their  best to undermine the party....

would i vote for a party led by Starmer,? i very much doubt it

wrong...

so again, factionalism wins the day and allows the tories yet more years in government, its nonsense pure nonsense, you hate the opposite part of the labour membership more than the tories, obviously

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1 minute ago, melthebell said:

so again, factionalism wins the day and allows the tories yet more years in government, its nonsense pure nonsense, you hate the opposite part of the labour membership more than the tories, obviously

It's amazing isn't it. 

 

As I have said in my post earlier some people are so ingrained in their 'roots' and so deluded as to their perception with the wider public - they would continually self harm rather than strategically adapt and diversify so they can win elections. 

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1 minute ago, melthebell said:

so again, factionalism wins the day and allows the tories yet more years in government, its nonsense pure nonsense, you hate the opposite part of the labour membership more than the tories, obviously

I think i dislike them on equal terms, but at least with the tories you know who the enemy is..

so what do you think of the leaked report that showed top party members were deliberately using fake  anti semitism as a weapon to make sure the party was unelectable?

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4 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

I think i dislike them on equal terms, but at least with the tories you know who the enemy is..

so what do you think of the leaked report that showed top party members were deliberately using fake  anti semitism as a weapon to make sure the party was unelectable?

what i think is...i wont be voting labour the next election like i have the last two (tactically, as i thought it was the best way to get the tories out), obviously it isnt , as BOTH factions are that busy fighting each other and leaving the worst tory governments in living memory free to do whatever they want.

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2 minutes ago, melthebell said:

what i think is...i wont be voting labour the next election like i have the last two (tactically, as i thought it was the best way to get the tories out), obviously it isnt , as BOTH factions are that busy fighting each other and leaving the worst tory governments in living memory free to do whatever they want.

so you wouldnt like to offer an opinion on the leaked report that showed top party members were deliberately using fake  anti semitism as a weapon to make sure the party was unelectable?

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7 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

so you wouldnt like to offer an opinion on the leaked report that showed top party members were deliberately using fake  anti semitism as a weapon to make sure the party was unelectable?

sigh

 

BOTH factions are at each others throats, BOTH factions are petty, pointless and stupid, BOTH factions need to stop the infighting and fight the tories, BOTH factions have created a point where there ISNT a credible opposition to the tories, they can just ride ripshod through anything they like cheating and lying as they go.

 

Again ill spell it out, the public dont want a socialist style government, history has shown that, STOP focussing on one tiny thing that may or may not have stopped them getting elected (history shows they wouldnt have anyway) and focus on getting the tories out.

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1 minute ago, melthebell said:

sigh

 

BOTH factions are at each others throats, BOTH factions are petty, pointless and stupid, BOTH factions need to stop the infighting and fight the tories, BOTH factions have created a point where there ISNT a credible opposition to the tories, they can just ride ripshod through anything they like cheating and lying as they go.

But the Blairites in the party are the Tories, they would fit right at home in the Tory party....why they are in the labour party is beyond me, and if the party ever got elected with the likes of Starmer at the helm, you can bet your bottom dollar that nothing much would change from what the Tories now offer.....i find it quite odd that you blame the labour party for the mess that the tories are creating, by saying if labour dont get elected then they are to blame, what an absurd view that is, nope, the only people to blame are the Tories and the Tory voters

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1 minute ago, banjodeano said:

But the Blairites in the party are the Tories, they would fit right at home in the Tory party....why they are in the labour party is beyond me, and if the party ever got elected with the likes of Starmer at the helm, you can bet your bottom dollar that nothing much would change from what the Tories now offer.....i find it quite odd that you blame the labour party for the mess that the tories are creating, by saying if labour dont get elected then they are to blame, what an absurd view that is, nope, the only people to blame are the Tories and the Tory voters

i blame labour for not being a credible opposition to halt the tories "mess" that is all, nice try, but you failed on turning what i said. and thats not helped by yet, more factionalism from you, which gets labour and a credible opposition to the tories NOWHERE :(

Sad to say it but you and the "blairites" are that entrenched in your own views, labour are dead, both sets have killed them. if starmer doesnt garner enough support this next election its over.

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3 minutes ago, melthebell said:

i blame labour for not being a credible opposition to halt the tories "mess" that is all, nice try, but you failed on turning what i said. and thats not helped by yet, more factionalism from you, which gets labour and a credible opposition to the tories NOWHERE :(

Sad to say it but you and the "blairites" are that entrenched in your own views, labour are dead, both sets have killed them. if starmer doesnt garner enough support this next election its over.

Starmer will never gain the support of the left whilst he makes the choices of getting rid of people like RBL on trumped up antisemitism charges, he talks about unity but has no intention of uniting the left and the right within the party,  the talk about unity is a sham, why didnt he talk about unity when the blairites were knifing Corbyn in the back? the right now want to talk about unity now they have control of the party

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3 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Starmer will never gain the support of the left whilst he makes the choices of getting rid of people like RBL on trumped up antisemitism charges, he talks about unity but has no intention of uniting the left and the right within the party,  the talk about unity is a sham, why didnt he talk about unity when the blairites were knifing Corbyn in the back? the right now want to talk about unity now they have control of the party

Then get used to unchallenged Tory rule for another decade then.

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