The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[banjodeano]

3 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

Again, fake anti-Semitism.

 

The most hilarious, tragic, absurd and unbelievable thing about the entire Corbyn legacy is that his supporters still think anti-Semitism was something dreamed up by the Jews to discredit Corbyn.

 

Never has there been such a clear example of irony in politics.

have you actually read the report?... i have...and if the report and accusations are true, then heads need to roll, but i very much doubt any action will be taken..

So have you read the report?

Edited June 28, 2020 by banjodeano

[Arnold_Lane]

Just now, banjodeano said:

have you actually read the report?... i have...and if the report and accusations are true, then heads need to roll, but i very much doubt any action was taken..

So have you read the report?

Who commissioned it and who wrote it was my question.

[banjodeano]

1 minute ago, Arnold_Lane said:

Who commissioned it and who wrote it was my question.

we dont actually know who  wrote it, but i believe it was commissioned by jennie formby,  

 the people mentioned in the report have never denied what they are supposed to have said.

the report has a list of personal emails and text messages, it looks pretty damning to me..

i'll ask you again, have you read the report?

[banjodeano]

I just found this...................

John McDonnell, Labour’s former shadow chancellor, has said the report was commissioned by general secretary Jennie Formby and put together by the party’s governance and legal unit. It was due to be submitted to the Equalities and Human Rights Commission investigation into antisemitism in the party, but that move was blocked by Labour’s lawyers.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/19/labour-party-financial-peril-keir-starmer-members-leaked-report

[Arnold_Lane]

6 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

we dont actually know who  wrote it, but i believe it was commissioned by jennie formby,  

 the people mentioned in the report have never denied what they are supposed to have said.

the report has a list of personal emails and text messages, it looks pretty damning to me..

i'll ask you again, have you read the report?

Are you hoping I say no so you can say, “haha see, you haven’t read it so you don’t know that anti-Semitism was all just made up by the Jews to keep Corbyn from power!”

 

There goes that irony Klaxon.

[Baron99]

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[melthebell]

14 minutes ago, Baron99 said:

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interesting contribution to the thread Oo

[banjodeano]

56 minutes ago, Arnold_Lane said:

Are you hoping I say no so you can say, “haha see, you haven’t read it so you don’t know that anti-Semitism was all just made up by the Jews to keep Corbyn from power!”

 

There goes that irony Klaxon.

Not at all, but you have to get your news from various sources, you laugh and deride the fact that people have the opinion that all the AS stuff was used as a tool to bring down Corbyn, if you take your time to search  and read various articles both for and against the argument, then you will have a balanced view.......

what would you think if it indeed did turn out to be true that all this AS was actually mostly fabricated? i have read a lot of the report, and if it turns out to be true then it really is shocking, not just for the labour party, but democracy in general

[Halibut]

The decision to fire Long-Bailey is a travesty of justice, 

[Arnold_Lane]

23 minutes ago, banjodeano said:

Not at all, but you have to get your news from various sources, you laugh and deride the fact that people have the opinion that all the AS stuff was used as a tool to bring down Corbyn, if you take your time to search  and read various articles both for and against the argument, then you will have a balanced view.......

what would you think if it indeed did turn out to be true that all this AS was actually mostly fabricated? i have read a lot of the report, and if it turns out to be true then it really is shocking, not just for the labour party, but democracy in general

You’ve gone from saying you’ve read the report to saying you’ve read a lot of the report.  Interesting.
 

According to the Guardian:

 

“The new internal report, seen by the Guardian, said it had found no evidence of antisemitism complaints being treated differently to other forms of complaint, or of current or former staff being “motivated by antisemitic intent.”

If there was no problem with anti-Semitism in the Labour Party why would this group need to disrupt the complaints process?  There would be no complaints in the first place.

 

If the complaint process was indeed disrupted to undermine Corbyn then there must be a problem with anti-Semitism in the first place.

 

You can’t have it both ways.  

Edited June 28, 2020 by Arnold_Lane