The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[mossdog]

Interesting listening to Blunkett on the Andrew Marr show this morning saying He did not vote for Corbyn..............this from the most vindictive left wing bully boy Sheffield has ever seen!

[Anna B]

Appeasement is never the answer. Never. Terrorists need to be wiped off the face of the earth, not invited round for tea and biscuits at number 10.

 

I assume you would apply this to the French Resistance in the second world war?

[drummonds]

I assume you would apply this to the French Resistance in the second world war?

 

if you were the germans. yes.

[Mister M]

we always knew which you would prefer. so when is jeza going to ask your question?

 

Whose 'we', your other alter egos? You're raison d'etre seems to be hanging round this thread like a bad smell & baiting others.

Why not contribute something positive for a change, resurrect the Conservative Party thread - clearly that's where you feel comfortable

[biotechpete]

Ok, start by dropping the Daily Mail style rhetoric, then move on to pointing out which policies are Marxist. I can't see any.

 

Let's discuss sensibly.

 

I said his ideology is Marxist. He self professes it as such. It's not Daily Mail rhetoric it's just the obvious interpretation of his views.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RC0A420150912

 

I will repeat it though. There is nothing mainstream nor socially democratic about state control of companies, much higher taxes and inflation. It's straight socialism and Corbyn's past would suggest the brand of socialism he prefers is Marxist socialism.

[tinfoilhat]

I said his ideology is Marxist. He self professes it as such. It's not Daily Mail rhetoric it's just the obvious interpretation of his views.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RC0A420150912

 

I will repeat it though. There is nothing mainstream nor socially democratic about state control of companies, much higher taxes and inflation. It's straight socialism and Corbyn's past would suggest the brand of socialism he prefers is Marxist socialism.

 

Corbyn - leader of the opposition, Marxist and now geologist! He wants to reopen northern coal mines!!!

[I1L2T3]

I said his ideology is Marxist. He self professes it as such. It's not Daily Mail rhetoric it's just the obvious interpretation of his views.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RC0A420150912

 

I will repeat it though. There is nothing mainstream nor socially democratic about state control of companies, much higher taxes and inflation. It's straight socialism and Corbyn's past would suggest the brand of socialism he prefers is Marxist socialism.

 

Well you can cry all you want, and it may be that Corbyn admires Marx, but the fact is Corbyn's economic policies are mainstream.

 

State control (or dominance) in certain industries and sectors is entirely compatible with social democratic principles and can dovetail perfectly into a predominantly capitalist economy. That is not straight socialism and to take it further and argue that Corbyn wants Marxist socialism is patently ridiculous.

[blake]

If there is anything much different between Corbyn's policies and the 1983 Labour election manifesto, then I'm not aware of it. Does anybody remember what happened then?

 

Actually, it will be a lot different if Labour run in 2020 on the same or similar platform that they did in 1983. That time, the Tories got 700,000 LESS votes than they got in 1979. This time, if Labour run on the same kind of platform in 2020 as they did in 1983, the Tories will get maybe 3/4 million votes MORE - and that's on top of the 11 million votes they got in May. Labour will be reduced to a rump of perhaps 120 seats, and there is no way back from there.

[*_ash_*]

Whose 'we', your other alter egos? You're raison d'etre seems to be hanging round this thread like a bad smell & baiting others.

Why not contribute something positive for a change, resurrect the Conservative Party thread - clearly that's where you feel comfortable

 

We all know, that the lefties on here, use 'we all know' all the time when the following sentence is something negative about the Torys.

 

Using your logic there are a lot of bad smells on this forum

[I1L2T3]

If there is anything much different between Corbyn's policies and the 1983 Labour election manifesto, then I'm not aware of it. Does anybody remember what happened then?

 

Actually, it will be a lot different if Labour run in 2020 on the same or similar platform that they did in 1983. That time, the Tories got 700,000 LESS votes than they got in 1979. This time, if Labour run on the same kind of platform in 2020 as they did in 1983, the Tories will get maybe 3/4 million votes MORE - and that's on top of the 11 million votes they got in May. Labour will be reduced to a rump of perhaps 120 seats, and there is no way back from there.

 

Yes quite a lot actually. We're in entirely different times now,