The Labour Party. All discussion here please

[blake]

The only threat to the Tories at the next election will come from UKIP if Cameron has failed to get migration under control. .

 

UKIP are especially perplexed by all this Corbyn business - more even than the Lib Dems. With UKIP having tried, and failed, to make an inroad in parliament mostly because they took more votes off disgruntled Labour voters rather than disgruntled Tory voters so did not win any of the Tory marginal seats that they needed to win to get anywhere, they are now faced with this novel anti-European onslaught on the left flank, which they didn't expect (nobody did), and with a central character, Corbyn, that is a bit like Farage except he pitches to the left and not the right like Farage does. One thing is for sure. The Tories are laughing.

[Vague_Boy]

Good leadership works like this, you are put there because of your principles but once you are there other people's principles are more important than your own.

 

That sounds more like a description of a puppet than a leader.

 

I wonder if Mrs. Thatcher thought that "other people's principles are more important than your own"? I'm pretty sure Tony Blair didn't.

 

BTW, I'll give you a pass on confusing "principles" with "policies" (i.e. those decided by the NPF, NEC and conference votes) and not assume that you were being deliberately disingenuous.

[RonJeremy]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4559169.ece

 

Corbyn And Abbott were lovers - fantastic, the plot thickens!!

[drummonds]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4559169.ece

 

Corbyn And Abbott were lovers - fantastic, the plot thickens!!

 

christ on a bike. imagine waking up next to that after a night on the booze

[RonJeremy]

christ on a bike. imagine waking up next to that after a night on the booze

 

An arm-chewer!!

 

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christ on a bike. imagine waking up next to that after a night on the booze

 

And he's teetotal. He's no excuse.

[gomgeg]

i don't have a problem. the longer labour are out of power the better. i'm at an age where in 30 years it probably won't matter to me but if we could stertch it to 50 it would save my kids having to live under the socialists as well.

 

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While I agree with you about labour at the moment. I don't think it would be good for the country.or our kids and grandkids to have one party in power permanently.

Unfortunately labour seem to have gone quite a way to making it easy for the conservatives at the moment, forgetting the lessons they learned after the70s.

[drummonds]

While I agree with you about labour at the moment. I don't think it would be good for the country.or our kids and grandkids to have one party in power permanently.

Unfortunately labour seem to have gone quite a way to making it easy for the conservatives at the moment, forgetting the lessons they learned after the70s.

 

i didn't sat one party in power all the time, just so long as it isn't labour.

the liberals were quite popular before ww1. they faded to obsurity. i'm thinking a labour meltdown would certainly hand seats to ukip and the libdems. i think in may we will see labour wiped out in scotland. with impending boundary changes and their adiction to electing no hopers as their leader that they are on a steep downhill slope.

[gomgeg]

i didn't sat one party in power all the time, just so long as it isn't labour.

the liberals were quite popular before ww1. they faded to obsurity. i'm thinking a labour meltdown would certainly hand seats to ukip and the libdems. i think in may we will see labour wiped out in scotland. with impending boundary changes and their adiction to electing no hopers as their leader that they are on a steep downhill slope.

The problems with that would be that UKIP and the Libdems are even more diametrically opposed than are labour and the conservatives, and the Libdems in power would be even more left wing than Jeremy Corbyn. The problems started with labour when they'd been in power a few years and got complacent and started throwing money the country couldn't afford at the feckless and interfering abroad.

I just hope they can come to their senses for our kids and grandkids sake.

[Blackbeard]

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4559169.ece

 

Corbyn And Abbott were lovers - fantastic, the plot thickens!!

 

Compared with John Major and Edwina Currie I am not sure which pair would be better.

[drummonds]

Compared with John Major and Edwina Currie I am not sure which pair would be better.

 

which one's are up for election?

 

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The problems with that would be that UKIP and the Libdems are even more diametrically opposed than are labour and the conservatives, and the Libdems in power would be even more left wing than Jeremy Corbyn. The problems started with labour when they'd been in power a few years and got complacent and started throwing money the country couldn't afford at the feckless and interfering abroad.

I just hope they can come to their senses for our kids and grandkids sake.

 

i'm struggling to see how the libdems are more left wing than corbyn. they aren't the ones toting the idea of nationalisation without compensation. i'm pretty happy to take the risk with the libdems.

 

blair only got elected by promising to keep to tory spending limits. it was when labour started on their own agenda that the wheels came off their wagon, as usual.

Edited September 17, 2015 by drummonds